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Title: Paramount Animation Discussion
Post by: Silverwing on 2019-07-20 15:33:52

Paramount Animation Discussion

A topic for past, present, and future Illumination Paramount Animation (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paramount_Animation) films.  They are owned by Viacom.

They are known for films such as the The SpongeBob Movie: Sponge Out of Water, Rango, and Sherlock Gnomes.  Their list of films is short, but if they follow their planned schedule, they will be going into overdrive the next few years.

Title: Re: Paramount Animation Discussion
Post by: Silverwing on 2019-07-20 15:35:21

With the help of several animation studios, they have desveral films lined up for 2020.  Four in total.


Planned 2020 release.

Sonic The Hedgehog
The SpongeBob Movie: It's a Wonderful Spone
Rumble
Clifford The Big Red Dog

For 2021.

Luck

For 2022.

The Tiger's Apprentice
Jersey Crabs

Title: Re: Paramount Animation Discussion
Post by: FoxTail on 2019-07-21 13:45:03

Wow, they do have a lot lined up.  I went and saw prior to this they only had a few animated films.   It will be interesting to see if they themselves eventually get an identity. 

Title: Re: Paramount Animation Discussion
Post by: MasterXtreme on 2019-11-14 14:01:15

I agree!  I appreciate this animation!  It looks good and colorful!

Title: Re: Paramount Animation Discussion
Post by: Blurr on 2019-11-14 14:40:49

How is it possible that friendship is magic ended before this did?

Title: Re: Paramount Animation Discussion
Post by: Anyponedrawn on 2019-11-14 15:39:42

Quote from: Blurr001 on 2019-11-14 14:40:49

How is it possible that friendship is magic ended before this did?

Hahaha!  True, true.

Title: Re: Paramount Animation Discussion
Post by: Graymist on 2019-11-16 17:26:32

I'm not sure what I think about that animation choice. :-\

Title: Re: Paramount Animation Discussion
Post by: MasterXtreme on 2019-12-14 22:20:47

It isn't a Paramount studio, but they worked on a Paramount film... here's the news.

(https://i.imgur.com/Pynbzad.jpg)

Sonic The Hedgehog's Redesign Studio Forced To Shutdown

After a summer spent as a meme and a cautionary tale, Sonic the Hedgehog showed off his new look last month in a trailer for Paramount Pictures’ upcoming video game adaptation. The response was overwhelmingly positive, with fans gushing over Sonic’s new design and praising the film for listening to the criticism. Well, no good deed goes unpunished I suppose because the studio behind Sonic the Hedgehog’s redesign is closing.

The visual effects company Moving Picture Company (MPC) has apparently shut down its studio in Vancouver, Canada effective immediately according to Cartoon Brew, who first reported on the closure. MPC Vancouver once employed over 800 visual effects workers although its current staff was much smaller. Those who still worked at MPC in Vancouver were allegedly told of the shutdown in a meeting earlier this week.

A source told the Los Angeles Times that approximately 80 employees would be immediately affected by the closure of the Vancouver studio. The Motion Picture Company told the affected employees who are now out of a job that they would have the opportunity join MPC or other arms of the company in one of the business’s other locations.

MPC Vancouver recently worked on the highly publicized and seemingly successful redesign of the titular character for Paramount Pictures’ Sonic the Hedgehog. The Blue Blur’s redesign isn’t all that the studio was responsible for though. The studio also made major contributions to Maleficent: Mistress of Evil and Detective Pikachu as well as helping out with Cats and its much-discussed CGI.

The Moving Picture Company, which is owned by Technicolor and has branches in Montreal, Adelaide, Paris, Toronto and Los Angeles, is also responsible for the visual effects work on The Lion King (2019), The Jungle Book, Blade Runner 2049, Justice League, Life of Pi and Guardians of the Galaxy to name a few.

So why did a studio with so much work on its plate and such a track record shut down one of its locations apparently without warning? Well, a statement from parent company Technicolor cited “increasing external market pressures” in Vancouver as well as “attractive opportunities in other locations” as the reason behind the shuttering of MPC Vancouver.

The statement also noted that the company plans to continue to grow the studios of its various VFX brands in other cities around the world as well as putting down roots in London and Berlin.

As noted by the LA Times, the razor-thin margins in the VFX industry and market conditions have created an environment where special effects companies have left California and are chasing tax incentives wherever they can find them. Essentially, it sounds like the MPC’s Vancouver studio was shuttered because Vancouver no longer offers enough financial benefit and the company can get a better deal elsewhere.

Sonic the Hedgehog races into theaters on February 14, 2020. Check out our 2020 Release Schedule to keep track of all of next year’s biggest movies.
Cinema Blend (https://www.cinemablend.com/news/2486721/sonic-the-hedgehogs-redesign-studio-is-closing)

Title: Re: Paramount Animation Discussion
Post by: Silverwing on 2019-12-15 15:42:37

That is too bad for the company and the employees who worked so hard on this and other films.  Even worse it happens right around Christmas.

Title: Re: Paramount Animation Discussion
Post by: MasterXtreme on 2020-01-17 22:05:30

So this year we get Sonic, new Spongebob Movie.

Some things we aren't certain about now are "Clifford" and "Rumble."  I think Rumble will still come out this year.

Title: Re: Paramount Animation Discussion
Post by: MasterXtreme on 2022-07-28 13:50:12

Paws of Fury: The Legend of Hank

I guess this will be in the Paramount topic since the film is distributed by them.  Another absolute BOMB.  The film was animated by Canadian animation firms under a company from London called, Cinesite (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cinesite).  The film was distributed by Paramount and Nickelodeon.  Opening weekend it ranked 7th only making $536,000.

Average ratings are about 5/10 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paws_of_Fury:_The_Legend_of_Hank).  The budget was $45 million, so we will see where it ends up.

Title: Re: Paramount Animation Discussion
Post by: Silverwing on 2022-07-28 20:54:08

This film did this...

(https://media0.giphy.com/media/lLqzWutqj7eZa/200.gif)

Title: Re: Paramount Animation Discussion
Post by: Soda on 2022-07-29 17:34:26

So technically, most of the films in this topic have been made by them.... What does this studio even do?

Title: Re: Paramount Animation Discussion
Post by: RainySunshine on 2022-07-30 18:03:37

Uhhh... not a whole lot. All their movies have been pretty bad.  Only two of their movies have no been box office bombs of their seven films.  Both successful films were Spongebob movies.

This studio made unknown films such as...
The Spongebob Movie: Sponge out of Water
The Little Prince
Anomalisa (which only made $5.7 million!!! Ouch!!!)
Monster Trucks  (Huge box office bomb)
Sherlock Gnomes
Wonder Park
The Spongbob Movie: Sponge on the Run

They had a film called "Rumble" made, that was supposed to come out in Dec 2021, but it never released. It was moved to Paramount+ last minute and the film got mostly negative reviews.

The next film they have coming is called "Under the Boardwalk" which is scheduled for a 2022 release, but no information has been given about it.

Title: Re: Paramount Animation Discussion
Post by: Silverwing on 2023-02-09 23:10:23

Next release for the studio is... "Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Mutant Mayhem." (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teenage_Mutant_Ninja_Turtles:_Mutant_Mayhem)  Trailer coming soon.

Title: Plus I'm pretty sure of those dudebros caught something gross off Snooki
Post by: NostradamusTheSeer on 2023-02-10 09:10:07

They should probably rethink that title "Jersey Crabs".  People might come away thinking it's more for the--er--adult set.

                           (https://media1.giphy.com/media/MCdRE6cEFEb28/giphy.gif?cid=790b7611c5f61f87085940405f1fb9fa9389c49b4dab34ca&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g)

Title: Re: Paramount Animation Discussion
Post by: MasterXtreme on 2023-11-09 23:50:30

Here is a movie made to die.  "Under The Boardwalk" released it's trailer then released it to theaters literally three days later with no other promotion.  They did NOT want people to even know this film was out and it's going to die whether it is good or not.  Original ideas meant to die according to the big studios in Hollywood. It released October 27, 2023. It was previously scheduled for release on July 22, 2022, but in January 2022, it was removed from the release schedule with Paws of Fury: The Legend of Hank (another terrible movie they wanted people to not see) taking the date.

Because it was meant to die, no major critics have reviewed it. No money figures have been revealed.

Wikipedia Page (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Under_the_Boardwalk_(2023_film))

Synopsis: "Under the boardwalk at the Jersey Shore, a land crab townie falls in love with a sea crab tourist, but tensions between their friends and families rise. When a storm casts the duo far from home, their love will lead them on an adventure."

Title: Re: Paramount Animation Discussion
Post by: RainySunshine on 2024-03-06 12:32:24

Haven't heard of a thing about that movie since its release.

They had another film called, "The Tiger's Apprentice" release on February 2, 2024.  Didn't see a single add of anything.

Who are they making these movies to if no one has heard of them or seen them?

Title: Paramount Minus
Post by: NostradamusTheSeer on 2024-03-07 09:08:35

Perhaps the royalties for the song "Under the Boardwalk" were so cheap they said, "Hey, let's build a while movie around it"? Maybe it'd have worked as an eight-minute cartoon, but a fully-animated film...?  Jim Cummings--hey, nice to see you're still getting work post-#MeToo. If worse comes to worse, maybe rethink your take on "Blood and Honey (https://search.yahoo.com/search/?p=jim%20cummings%20winnie%20the%20pooh%20blood%20and%20honey)"--I bet they'd love to have you on board for the sequel (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winnie-the-Pooh:_Blood_and_Honey_2), buddy.

I've seen a few ads for "The Tiger's Apprentice". Feh, doesn't look like any great shakes.

Title: Re: Paramount Animation Discussion
Post by: Rainberry on 2024-03-07 12:23:41

It's because all these films go to Paramount+ which I makes me class them as not really films in the traditional sense.  They might have the length, but they aren't making them any more either.

Title: Re: Paramount Animation Discussion
Post by: MasterXtreme on 2024-03-08 12:26:40

Quote from: Rainberry on 2024-03-07 12:23:41

It's because all these films go to Paramount+ which I makes me class them as not really films in the traditional sense.  They might have the length, but they aren't making them any more either.

Exactly right.  Hence why we get no to few critic reviews and no money totals in earnings.  So these are glorified 'direct to video' films, but with higher quality animation.  They are meant to draw people into the streaming service, yet they don't advertise them. Go figure.

The only one I saw ads for were for Luck and this Tiger's Apprentice one.

Title: Re: Paramount Animation Discussion
Post by: mysteryserpent on 2024-03-08 18:42:11

Advertisements are expensive and take effort but to me they are worth having. A product can't sell well or even be looked at if there is not an initial reason or sight to draw people into what the product is.

Streaming services are like double edge swords to me. I understand why they exist and the advantages they can have over cable and movie theaters but the overall value of individual films are dropping because of streaming services.

Title: Re: Paramount Animation Discussion
Post by: MasterXtreme on 2024-03-09 16:26:18

Short answer:

Theatrical films go to die on streaming services. 

Title: Also, "Jack Reacher". Sounds dirty. Isn't that one of Roger Smith's personas?
Post by: NostradamusTheSeer on 2024-03-12 11:56:20

So, if I understand correctly, there's Paramount and Paramount+.  The latter has a wide variety of shows from animated movies to both new cartoons and classic nineties library--Big Nate, The Tiny Chef Show, Beavis and Butthead, SpongeBob SquarePants, Fairly OddParents , South Park, and every iteration of Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, even that live-action turd made by the people behind Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. The regular Paramount has...um...all three Hangover films, infomercials, Two and a Half Men reruns, and Saturday-long marathons of Bar Rescue. That's it.

Title: Re: Also, "Jack Reacher". Sounds dirty. Isn't that one of Roger Smith's personas?
Post by: Anyponedrawn on 2024-03-12 12:30:02

Quote from: NostradamusTheSeer on 2024-03-12 11:56:20

So, if I understand correctly, there's Paramount and Paramount+.  The latter has a wide variety of shows from animated movies to both new cartoons and classic nineties library--Big Nate, The Tiny Chef Show, Beavis and Butthead, SpongeBob SquarePants, Fairly OddParents , South Park, and every iteration of Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, even that live-action turd made by the people behind Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. The regular Paramount has...um...all three Hangover films, infomercials, Two and a Half Men reruns, and Saturday-long marathons of Bar Rescue. That's it.

I'm going to take your assessment as truth, but I truly do not know.  I don't fall into the streaming service trap.  It's no different than cable was years ago and will keep shifting to look more like cable in the future.

Isn't Jack Reacher an Amazon Prime show?

Title: Re: Also, "Jack Reacher". Sounds dirty. Isn't that one of Roger Smith's personas?
Post by: FoxTail on 2024-03-12 12:40:49

Quote from: Anyponedrawn on 2024-03-12 12:30:02

Isn't Jack Reacher an Amazon Prime show?

To make it more confusing.  It is produced by Paramount Television and premiers on Amazon Prime TV.

Title: Re: Also, "Jack Reacher". Sounds dirty. Isn't that one of Roger Smith's personas?
Post by: Silverwing on 2024-03-12 23:59:00

Quote from: FoxTail on 2024-03-12 12:40:49

Quote from: Anyponedrawn on 2024-03-12 12:30:02

Isn't Jack Reacher an Amazon Prime show?

To make it more confusing.  It is produced by Paramount Television and premiers on Amazon Prime TV.

 [think]

Title: Should I try that "big-breasted women just don't fall outta the sky" thing next?
Post by: NostradamusTheSeer on 2024-03-14 13:03:12

Maybe Paramount gets the syndication rights, and the new episodes run first on AppleTV? There's only sixteen episodes, all told, but maybe the magic syndie number is no longer 65 in this brave new age of streaming.

Chris Rock's Masterful Race-Baiting Humor Makes A Comeback (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Everybody_Hates_Chris#Reboot)
The Highly-Animated Comic Gets A Little More Animated In "Everybody Still Hates Chris" (https://people.com/tv/chris-rock-returns-to-tv-with-everybody-still-hates-chris-animated-series/)

So in the course of my research, I learned that Paramount+ has a new animated reboot of the comedian's semi-autobiographical 2005 UPN sitcom Everybody Hates Chris in the works. And all I can say is... [bleep] it, those [bleep-bleep]ing [bleep]wipes stole my [bleep]ing idea. Aw, those [bleep] [bleep]es. [bleep] 'em.

See, about a year ago I wrote a comic script about a "lost" ECH episode (https://psfforum.com/index.php?topic=524.msg48566;topicseen#msg48566). On the last page there's a tag (https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheStinger) about Chris Rock (his back is to the "camera" a la "Steinbrenner (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BqgsIbn3_w&pp=ygUgZ2VvcmdlIHN0ZWluYnJlbm5lciBvbiBzZWluZmVsZCA%3D)" on Seinfeld, but it's obvious who it's supposed to be) talking to his agent about doing a ECH spinoff called "Everybody Hates Chris: The College Years (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJSXFaCWcIs)". At the time it was supposed to be a joke...I'm scared to make jokes now because they might come true, dammit.   :-0   I should be asking for a cut of any royalties on this...unless, you know, it sucks major ass....  <poop>   :nervoussmile:

Title: Re: Should I try that "big-breasted women just don't fall outta the sky" thing next?
Post by: MasterXtreme on 2024-03-14 23:54:22

Quote from: NostradamusTheSeer on 2024-03-14 13:03:12

See, about a year ago I wrote a comic script about a "lost" ECH episode (https://psfforum.com/index.php?topic=524.msg48566;topicseen#msg48566).

Where can one find your current episodes?

Title: Re: Paramount Animation Discussion
Post by: Bumble on 2024-03-15 23:40:02

I'm down to see new episodes.

Title: Re: Paramount Animation Discussion
Post by: Soda on 2024-03-17 15:21:23

Very, very, very late review of the film luck by DazzReviews who for some reason seems to hate it.  I didn't think it was bad at all.  What do you guys think?

We can't deny the main female character is very cute.

Title: Re: Paramount Animation Discussion
Post by: Grapefoot on 2024-03-18 00:19:57

Quote from: Soda on 2024-03-17 15:21:23

Very, very, very late review of the film luck by DazzReviews who for some reason seems to hate it.  I didn't think it was bad at all.  What do you guys think?

He's wrong.  It's not a terrible movie.  I found it pretty cute and enjoyable.  It's just his one opinion.  It's a very creative and unique idea for a film and any other studio would have received credit for it's unique world.

Plus lots of near sneezy bits and lost opportunities.  Especially by Babe the dragon and even Sam herself. Sam had glitter fall all over her and pinched her nose later in the film.  Babe has a scene where she sniffs bad luck and has this pre-sneeze looking scene where it looks and sounds like she needs to sneeze.

Title: Re: Paramount Animation Discussion
Post by: Spiffmin on 2024-03-18 12:37:51

Honestly I liked the film.  I thought Same was a super adorable character. So was Bob the cat.

Title: Re: Paramount Animation Discussion
Post by: Silverwing on 2024-03-18 23:24:32

Honestly all I saw in that movie was Sam's hips and butt.  They showed it a lot and my eyes were drawn to them. 

Title: Re: Paramount Animation Discussion
Post by: MasterXtreme on 2024-03-19 11:52:16

Quote from: Silverwing on 2024-03-18 23:24:32

Honestly all I saw in that movie was Sam's hips and butt.  They showed it a lot and my eyes were drawn to them.

Animators have to keep themselves entertained.

Title: Re: Paramount Animation Discussion
Post by: Darrin on 2024-03-24 23:31:21

She's got a big ole' butt. I remember those ads.  Footage of it right in our faces as she balances over the toilet, lol. 

Title: Re: Paramount Animation Discussion
Post by: Sniffles on 2024-03-24 23:45:39

She was blessed with assets, thighs, hips, and a big butt.  I actually have no idea why no one ever wanted to adopt her though. Was it because she was unlucky?  It was never explained why no one wanted her.

Title: Paramount Animation Discussion
Post by: NostradamusTheSeer on 2024-03-27 00:59:52

If her bad luck was contagious, and terrible things tended to happen to anyone around her, I could see it.  Me, I'd have gone with a montage of potential foster parents getting hurt because of her--sort of like this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-an96RDN32U), but of course the incidents that keep getting her schlepped back to the orphanage are accidental instead of malicious. Then again, maybe it's ill-advised, given current sensibilities, to have a film mock the foster-care system.  [think]  Or perhaps that sort of humor would be a bit too Looney Tunes, as opposed to the Pixar feel the creators were aiming for.  [weary] 

Quote from: MasterXtreme on 2024-03-14 23:54:22

Where can one find your current episodes?

Hopefully soon. I think the latest sketches I posted were these (https://www.deviantart.com/haggismccrablice/journal/Oct-7-2020-857398418), but rest assured I have a lot of content,  in various forms of completion, banked away.

Title: Re: Paramount Animation Discussion
Post by: Rainberry on 2024-03-27 12:08:08

Quote from: NostradamusTheSeer on 2024-03-27 00:59:52

Hopefully soon. I think the latest sketches I posted were these (https://www.deviantart.com/haggismccrablice/journal/Oct-7-2020-857398418), but rest assured I have a lot of content,  in various forms of completion, banked away.

That was four years ago.  You really need to start putting new stuff up.  Essentially to the public, your series has been over with all this time.