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« Reply #90 on: 2017-08-22 16:45:11 »

Subaru tends to have their vehicles become dated and behind the pack.  Then every ten years, they try to upmarket everything to compete, then fall behind again.  Small car company woes.
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« Reply #91 on: 2017-08-22 16:45:30 »

Mazda is going to start seeing that happen to them here too if they don't make great strides inside. 
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« Reply #92 on: 2017-08-22 16:45:38 »

Their cars are great inside! 
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« Reply #93 on: 2017-08-22 16:45:51 »

I mean specifically their dated infotainment screen. 
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« Reply #94 on: 2017-08-22 16:46:32 »

Oh.  I don't like how they pop out. 
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« Reply #95 on: 2017-08-22 16:46:50 »

It to me seems like a lazy afterthought to do that.  The German brands love to do that. 
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« Reply #96 on: 2017-08-22 16:47:01 »

The German brands have lost their soul and passion.  All sterile. 
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« Reply #97 on: 2017-08-22 16:47:32 »

BMW and Mercedes are becoming quite sterile, but there is still soul in their performance cars.  Mercedes has been doing a better job lately on the performance front. 
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« Reply #98 on: 2017-08-22 16:47:47 »

The BMW's are losing steering feel and becoming turds with turbochargers. 
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« Reply #99 on: 2017-08-22 16:48:13 »

AMERICA!  WE LIKE NATURALLY ASPIRATED ENGINES with no COMMUNIST gizmos in them!  Give me that V8 natural please. 
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« Reply #100 on: 2017-08-22 16:49:06 »

It's true!  Think of the new BMW 3 seres that costs $60,000 for a fully loaded car, but it comes with a 4 cylinder!  The 5 Series is the same way!  Turbo 4's!

Look at the Alfa Guila TA which can be had with a turbo 4 instead of at least a V6! 
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« Reply #101 on: 2017-08-22 16:49:30 »

Engine downsizing is the current trend, but luckily, engines are getting better and providing better power with less, and better economy.  Fact of life.
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« Reply #102 on: 2017-08-22 16:49:43 »

But it's like, I have a 4 cylinder, thats sounds wimpy as all hell.
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« Reply #103 on: 2017-08-22 16:50:58 »

Okay.  Bare with me here.  The new Focus ST has about 230hp and does 0-60mph in about 5 seconds.

The 80s Buick Grand National had 210hp and did 0-60mph in about 8 seconds. 


The Buick had a V8 and the current Focus has a V4.

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« Reply #104 on: 2017-08-22 16:51:34 »

.....You make your point. 

I am just trying to say how wimpy it sounds.  A 4 cylinder doesn't sound nearly as good as a 6 cylinder, and an 8 cylinder is boss. 
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