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The Lounge => Television & Film Discussion => Topic started by: DEEcat98 on 2024-08-24 09:55:35
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Do you think an antagonistic character necessarily needs a redemption just because of an episode which revealed why they’re doing their own wrongs?
Such as the SpongeBob episode, Friend or Foe showing Plankton's backstory of how he and Mr. Krabs used to be friends which also shows how he thought of stealing the krabby patty secret formula in the first place,
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and the Harvey Street Kids episode, Raccoon Hoarder Picture show showing the raccoons misunderstood sides as it showed the reason why they were stealing stuff around Harvey Street which was not because they were being mean, but it was actually for their hideout such as that they stole for their raccoon babies to play with? (plus not to mention the first Season 2 episode of HSK revealing that Zoe framing the raccoons to make Audrey hate on them by putting one under Audrey's pillow is the reason why Audrey has been going against the raccoons ever since)
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Both of those being instances yet Plankton and the Harvey Street raccoons never got a redemption.
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No. Absolutes like this are just silly. Not everyone needs redemption.
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I somehow missed this. She did the same thing she does every time.
Whenever a lot of people start telling her to knock off whatever she's doing, either she links to a poorly made sticker that says "Stop criticazing me!!!!", or she unsubtly brings up the villain redemption topic again.
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No. Absolutes like this are just silly. Not everyone needs redemption.
How are they just silly when they are hinting potential character development and would it be necessary just because of these episodes showing those?
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You misunderstand. Its not redemption thats silly, its your assertion that all characters should have redemption thats silly.
Not all antagonists need redemption, indeed doing so reduces tension and makes stories worse.
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If a a character's confident and/or misunderstood side is shown in an episode or two, is that hinting on character development which is what Harvey Street Kids did here yet the show didn't bother doing actual character development resolvements on it's characters?
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If a a character's confident and/or misunderstood side is shown in an episode or two, is that hinting on character development which is what Harvey Street Kids did here yet the show didn't bother doing actual character development resolvements on it's characters?
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FdmsavVUAAAyLWr?format=jpg&name=medium)
Just seems like lazy writing where one writer did one thing for a character, but it wasn't carried over by another writer. It's episodic and they really didn't care too deeply of who these characters were. They had a general idea, but otherwise they molded them to what they needed them to be. It's not that complicated.
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If a a character's confident and/or misunderstood side is shown in an episode or two, is that hinting on character development which is what Harvey Street Kids did here yet the show didn't bother doing actual character development resolvements on it's characters?
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FdmsavVUAAAyLWr?format=jpg&name=medium)
Just seems like lazy writing where one writer did one thing for a character, but it wasn't carried over by another writer. It's episodic and they really didn't care too deeply of who these characters were. They had a general idea, but otherwise they molded them to what they needed them to be. It's not that complicated.
Though, even if a show is episodic, does it need character development?
I mean, SpongeBob hasn't bother doing character development either such as not giving Squidward and Plankton any character development to change their ways.
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We've been over this a thousand times on them multiple topics you create. No, character development is not required. Most kid's shows don't do it.
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We've been over this a thousand times on them multiple topics you create. No, character development is not required. Most kid's shows don't do it.
But how come MLP did character development?
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^ Because they decided they wanted to go down that route.
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^ Because they decided they wanted to go down that route.
But why can't the writers of Harvey Street Kids make the decision of giving HSK character development in the first place when it had episodes that showed certain characters' confident and/or misunderstood sides?
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Ok. Im just gonna ask this and I want a straight answer.
What do you want? Because you’re creating multiple topics just to ask the same question over and over again. What is it you’re after?
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Ok. Im just gonna ask this and I want a straight answer.
What do you want? Because you’re creating multiple topics just to ask the same question over and over again. What is it you’re after?
Because I want to see if people are hurt and upset that not every character got character development like me and if anyone is aware that character development should always be important and should always be canon just to give everyone a proper ending and a proper of looking more into their characters before everything concludes.
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^ Because they decided they wanted to go down that route.
But why can't the writers of Harvey Street Kids make the decision of giving HSK character development in the first place when it had episodes that showed certain characters' confident and/or misunderstood sides?
Because that's how they chose to do it.
The answer's that simple, Dee. It's not freakin' rocket science.
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Because I want to see if people are hurt and upset that not every character got character development like me and if anyone is aware that character development should always be important and should always be canon just to give everyone a proper ending and a proper of looking more into their characters before everything concludes.
No, most people aren't "hurt and upset" by stuff like this. It is odd, how most people tend to have lives...
"if anyone is aware that character development should always be important and should always be canon"
This is just you forcing your opinion down everyone's throats. No, it doesn't always NEED to be. And if you ask why, then, again, I will say: BECAUSE. That's all there is to it: BECAUSE.
I don't know why I'm even bothering. You're Dee. And you pretty much said it best yourself: you won't try to change your habits until you're 50.
Because that's what the cartoons told you.
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Ok. Im just gonna ask this and I want a straight answer.
What do you want? Because you’re creating multiple topics just to ask the same question over and over again. What is it you’re after?
Because I want to see if people are hurt and upset that not every character got character development like me and if anyone is aware that character development should always be important and should always be canon just to give everyone a proper ending and a proper of looking more into their characters before everything concludes.
And we've answered a bajillion times dear. No we are not hurt. No it isn't "always" important. That's it. It's over.