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« Reply #45 on: 2016-07-29 19:36:16 »

But now they've FINALLY talked..............and a few people on tumblr are starting to ship PearlxGreg
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« Reply #46 on: 2016-07-29 19:54:04 »

Guh. I feared that would happen. >_>
It's just as cringeworthy as the people who ship Mayor Dewey with Pearl.
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« Reply #47 on: 2016-07-29 21:36:45 »

I guess love is complicated, be you human or Gem.   Pearl is the most maternal of Steven's "aunts", so it stands to reason fans want her to find love with someone.
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« Reply #48 on: 2016-07-29 21:49:40 »

I thought it was a really well done song.


I viewed it as Pearl feeling that Rose choose him, and didn't choose her, but in terms of maybe fighting for Gems or something, like their fusion thing... I don't know.  So like either she loved Rose, or she is upset she choose him because of them not focusing on fusion and doing their thing.  I can see it both ways though.
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« Reply #49 on: 2016-07-29 21:55:46 »

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I felt it was like the final thing that cemented that they loved each other and what broke Pearl was Rose choosing someone, who in Pearls eyes, was somebody who barely knew her over her [Pearl] who she had fought with and loved for years. Which I guess is something pretty heartbreaking.

It does seem that because of Greg though that Rose spent less time with all of the gems and the whole Crystal Gems thing. Which probably hurt them too, but they weren't as close to Rose as Pearl was.
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« Reply #50 on: 2016-07-29 21:59:36 »

Yeah, it cements Pearl loved Rose.

In their world, they are neither male or female, right?  So now that they are on earth in the form of females, they can make this huge message with this show.  It might make a lot of people unhappy, and a lot of other people happy. 
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« Reply #51 on: 2016-07-29 22:01:37 »

Well yeah, it's a message they seem to have been doing since the start. Afterall, Ruby and Saphire and constantly fused, literally attached to each other all the time. And it does make many people happy, and the people it makes unhappy, they just seem to brush it away with "well they're not really females".
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« Reply #52 on: 2016-07-29 22:04:40 »

Well yeah, it's a message they seem to have been doing since the start. Afterall, Ruby and Saphire and constantly fused, literally attached to each other all the time. And it does make many people happy, and the people it makes unhappy, they just seem to brush it away with "well they're not really females".


This show is really trying to make a statement though.  It went a step further then the Legend of Korra.


I mean, think of the subject matter, on a children's network, that is being shown.  This would be complete taboo even a few years ago.  One can view this as progress, or a complete decline in our values system.


I'm not choosing a side, just pointing stuff out that is already known, but I don't see people ever talk about it.  I loved Pearl's song, I liked her outfit, and it was well animated. :)  I thought it was really good.
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« Reply #53 on: 2016-07-29 22:12:21 »

Well, I guess people don't talk about it because it's just expected of the show now.
It's been there since the premise, or at least since Giant Woman and the episode with Sugilite. A deep connection made between female characters. It's not anything "new" now for the show. It's one of its key elements.

Step further than Korra... Hmm. Well, in LoK the characters are confirmed bisexuals and it ends with two of the characters becoming a couple. Here, they're "lesbians", or bi in Rose's case. They both have strong powerful females who are in relationships with another female. I guess the difference is, LoK did it because it was off TV and was independent when the last episode was released.
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« Reply #54 on: 2016-07-29 22:17:51 »

Well, I guess people don't talk about it because it's just expected of the show now.
It's been there since the premise, or at least since Giant Woman and the episode with Sugilite. A deep connection made between female characters. It's not anything "new" now for the show. It's one of its key elements.

Step further than Korra... Hmm. Well, in LoK the characters are confirmed bisexuals and it ends with two of the characters becoming a couple. Here, they're "lesbians", or bi in Rose's case. They both have strong powerful females who are in relationships with another female. I guess the difference is, LoK did it because it was off TV and was independent when the last episode was released.


Yeah, you are right about LoK.  So I guess we should be viewing this as groundbreaking, what Steven Universe is doing, ON TV. 
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« Reply #55 on: 2016-07-29 22:20:52 »

But their loophole is that they're rocks. They just have female forms.
That's their loophole.
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« Reply #56 on: 2016-07-29 22:22:06 »

But their loophole is that they're rocks. They just have female forms.
That's their loophole.


I'm still amazed that works.  CN is allowing it, knowing full well most kids don't realize that, and most adults who will walk in, won't know that.  They'll just see two females going at it (not going at it, but you know what I mean). 
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« Reply #57 on: 2016-07-29 22:27:17 »

Well that's extreme. A child, and someone with no context would just see 2 gems dancing.
It's like saying when the transformers make their giant robot (do transformers do that?) it's them having sex. Sure, fusing is a lot more intimate and about the relationship between the dancers, but it doesn't solely have to be about a love relationship. But one where they need to work together.

Of course, older people who watch the show see the subtext, but young kids won't, and I guess it's iffy if someone with no context walked in on it.
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« Reply #58 on: 2016-07-29 22:30:32 »

Well that's extreme. A child, and someone with no context would just see 2 gems dancing.
It's like saying when the transformers make their giant robot (do transformers do that?) it's them having sex. Sure, fusing is a lot more intimate and about the relationship between the dancers, but it doesn't solely have to be about a love relationship. But one where they need to work together.

Of course, older people who watch the show see the subtext, but young kids won't, and I guess it's iffy if someone with no context walked in on it.


It's pretty iffy. 


But you brought up a valid point with Transformers. They do become like a MEGA-TRANSFORMER... thing.... ;) 
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« Reply #59 on: 2016-07-29 22:33:39 »

I know parents who have banned this show from their kids.  Parents don't know the sub context, but Rebecca Sugar certainly had an agenda too.  That goes without saying.
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