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The Lounge => Television & Film Discussion => Topic started by: Soda on 2016-07-30 11:34:18
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MLP:FiM - "Stranger Than Fan Fiction" is the 13th episode of season 6. Discuss.
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Haven't watched it yet. Can't wait, though. :D
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I've got high hopes for season 6 part 2. Worries me there has been no announcement of season 7 yet... which makes me think this is the last season. Then we at PSF will be left at a crossroads. We need to expand before that happens.
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Seems like Rainbow Dash has herself a boyfriend she enjoys herself... :) That get people to watch it. ;)
Also best few second sequence, Rainbow Dash tail slaps someone. ;)
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All I know is the name sucks, and it makes me want to not watch it.
Oh and Caballeron comes back. I cannot contain my fangirling. I'll only watch it for him.
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Really good message, and I really liked the guy character. Rainbow Dash was good in this episode, and overall, this was really enjoyable. :) I would say great start to the new part of the season. Plus the ending credits is funny, watch it.
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I don't try to come in to these with high hopes or overhype.
I was again pleasantly surprised. I have not been a fan of Daring Do episodes much, but this was probably my favorite one by a long shot, and a really solid episode. Great characters, really fun puzzle and action sequences. It overall was a great episode. I would give it a 8 or 9 out of 10.
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See!? It is a good episode! I really liked how Rainbow Dash got a relationship going, and she clearly likes this guy and he likes her.
I seen shipping incoming, like hardcore. She tends to be a secret egghead herself, but also kind of likes the nerdy ones. This guy, while he may come off as annoying sometimes, I really enjoyed his character.
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Me too! I think it is good to add to her friends and . . . more than friends list. :) It was a really good episode. I'm gonna watch it again, because I know I missed many Brony Convention references too. ;)
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I don't know the colts name, but he proved himself to be very valuable and smart. He did all the brain work and pretty much solved everything and got out of bad situations that required you to think. He outsmarted, Caballeron, the entire time. He was a great character, for a great episode! Season 6 continues it's greatness! Best season so far? I would now probably have to say so.
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He has a weird name, his name is Quibble Pants.
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He has a weird name, his name is Quibble Pants.
Very weird name, thanks. :) I thought it was Quivel something.
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It is Quibble Pants according to DB tags.
As for S6 greatness, I'm iffy on saying that. Really I felt the only strongly solid episode was Saddle Row Review. Everything else I've watched so far is.... Meh? Or good at first then boring or stupid at the end.
Hopefully if I watch all the episodes, maybe I can say that best season, but from what I've watched....
I really do hope this episode is good. It has to be. It has Caballeron :P
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You Mus have hand picked poor episodes. Even I think this may be the strongest season, or right up there overall. Good episode. It was fun and something that i would watch again. Good character interactions.
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Hm. Mayhaps. Well, when I watch episodes as get home I'll write my long extensive thoughts like they actually matter XP
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LP, I get the feeling you'll like this episode a lot. Caballeron, Caballeron cosplayers (including a terrible one by Derpy), and well, the new guy is pretty funny despite his name.
I enjoyed it a lot. It was an extremely 'self-aware' episode, especially with the convention background gags (the 'just shoot me' food service lady, the body pillow, to name a few)
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Caballllleeerroooooooon.
Oh god I loved him so much in his debut episode. Was so sad he didn't stay long. But oooohoohooo. His voice. And just his demeanor in general made me laugh.
"Just shoot me" food lady and body pillows, oh my god.
Body pillows are like the highest level cringe.
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It was a bondage body pillow even. I feel like someone is gonna get fired for that.
Spoilers....not really: http://i.4cdn.org/mlp/1469893231994.jpg
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Oh my god. I think the censors were very asleep when they were screening that episode then.
Oh wait it's not thaaaaat bad. Although the implications.... Yeeaaaah...
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Well... I just watched it.
Now excuse me while I find a computer so I can angrily type on my keyboard. My god this episode was so infuriating.
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Raise the blast shields! Incoming!
(I've not watched it yet, but agree with your general sentiments on the season from earlier in the thread.)
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Watched it! :) Really liked this episode, just like everyone else! :D *looks up* Well, almost everyone. ;)
I came really close to absolutely hating Quibble --I found him REALLY annoying--, but as the episode went on, I just thought of him as funny. XD I liked the montage of them in the convention. :D
Also, that's the first time I've seen the end credits without music. :o You'll see what they put instead. ;)
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Spoilers....not really: http://i.4cdn.org/mlp/1469893231994.jpg
I like how happy Quibble is about seeing that pillow.
Personally, I really like the episode. I liked how it handled issues of conventions, and even threw in a stereotypical fat brony guy with a neck beard. ;)
I liked Quibble. I loved seeing him so excited the first time he like went off a waterfall. ;) That was cool, and I really liked Daring Do and Dash, and the bad guys. Thumbs up from me.
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I give the episode a very strong 8.5/10. I really liked it.
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Numbers, how could you (almost) hate Quibble's D: he was like, the one redeeming factor of this episode.
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Numbers, how could you (almost) hate Quibble's D: he was like, the one redeeming factor of this episode.
Why did you dislike the episode? I'm glad you liked Quibble though.
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Quibble was pretty sick (awesome!).
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But he was so annoyiiing!!
But then he wasn't. ;)
Also, "the only redeeming factor", that depends on whether you like the episode or not. :P
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But he was so annoyiiing!!
But then he wasn't. :P
He seemed like more of a nerd to begin with, but actually turned out pretty valuable and cool.
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Quibble was fantastic and (I felt) was not annoying. And if he was, he was not NEARLY as annoying as Rainbow Dash.
Rainbow Dash. She ruins every episode she's in by being there. Okay harsh, beginning was cute, with her excited to go to a con and all. But then once Quibble states he's only there for the first trilogy and not the rest of Daring's "bad books" she turns downright unpleasant and becomes "that fan". You know the one, the one who worships the very ground the creator steps on, and the type who refuses to admit an episode of a show is bad. She is that fan who treats the creator like some heavenly being who does no wrong. Which, is a very wrong mentality to have. And she's portrayed as right. Yes, there are amazing creators, but even they slip up.
Here's the thing, Rainbow knows Daring is real. Thus she doesn't have a suspension of disbelief to be possibly broken. So even if Daring writes something implausible happening, Dash has the reassurance that she is real so it must've happened. Quibble and every other fan does not. Thus it is the fault of the author, A. K Yearling, for failing to portray her daring stunts with enough detail to explain how she managed to get out of such an impossible situation. Or failing to keep her readers suspension of disbelief from breaking.
But what infuriates me the most is Dash's utter lack of care for another ponies life because hey gotta do this crazy stunt just so I can prove this one guy wrong. Hey I haven't tried it before but damnit he's got to see I'm right. Like how petty can you get. And then that smug attitude she has the whole time is just- makes me want to repeatedly punch her in the face. Her trying to prove to Quibble that something like what Daring said she did can happen is supposed to make us sympathize with her and see how she has a reason. And.... Quibble falls for it like a shmuck because plot and she's the main character so she has to be right. When Quibble has been shown to be a smart pony, and should be able to see the key difference in their stunt and Darings. That there were two of them! Daring wouldn't have had someone to run her down the river at top speed, tie her up on a branch to send her flying in just the right direction to land. No. She was solo, while Quibble had Dash to do that. Making her stunt proving to him Daring did a pile of bullshit. To give him credit he doesn't roll over and say that makes te books good, just that shit can happen.
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Rainbow Dash. She ruins every episode she's in by being there. Okay harsh, beginning was cute, with her excited to go to a con and all. But then once Quibble states he's only there for the first trilogy and not the rest of Daring's "bad books" she turns downright unpleasant and becomes "that fan". You know the one, the one who worships the very ground the creator steps on, and the type who refuses to admit an episode of a show is bad. She is that fan who treats the creator like some heavenly being who does no wrong. Which, is a very wrong mentality to have. And she's portrayed as right. Yes, there are amazing creators, but even they slip up.
I forgave Dash in this simple because she KNEW the author/pone personally. She kind of took it as an attack on the author. She took it as an attack on Daring Do. She felt if "only he knew" he would change his mind. I totally understand what you are saying, but I feel she took it as a personal attack almost on Daring/author pone. But as you further mentioned, Yearling might not be the greatest writer if she can't portray what she says in a believable fashion. Sadly, Rainbow's ego gets in the way of many things.
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Rainbow doesn't have to be an ass about it or act like a smug b*tch. BlackGryffon is friends with AB's VA and you don't see him acting like a smug jerk because he knows her and her certainly doesn't get angry at people who say Apple Bloom is a bad character. Dash is just so petty and unlikeable in this episode. I get the feel Rainbow feels she's entitled because she knows te author. And then, at the end when Quibble tries to make amends and stop them from fighting and saying they like the books for different reasons, what does Dash say? Be mature and accept it and agree? HahaHaha, no that would actually make her likable. No, she tells him he's got terrible taste in books. Out protagonist people.
I've always hated Dash, but this is a new level. I've only hated her more in Rainbow Falls and Tanks for the Memories.
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Dash totally feels entitled because she knows the author. That short scene when she goes to the bell hop at the hotel and asked him to call Yearling, then when yearling actually comes, Dash gives him that "see, I know her, and I'm not just a crazy fan," kind of look.
I didn't realize she did that to him at the end. I will go see that scene again. You really analyze these. More then me. I did like how it was Quibble who came up with the morale/conclusion though. Kind of funny... because Dash who is a main star didn't.
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Bleh, I hated all her smirks and stuff when it came to Yearling. Then how she asks a completely stupid thing just because she wants to get back at Quibble by making him a suspect? Come on, give me a break from your childishness. Your an adult, act like one. The face she pulls though when Yearlig saves them and she hugs them. Good god, I wanted to punch her so hard and so much. Gosh darn fictional characters making my blood pressure rise XD
Dash is just... The worst. I never understood why people liked her from the start, as she was a selfish jerk. But lolz, she has the gay pride flag on her head. But yeah, Quibble is nice civil and I actually love that despite everything he experienced he doesn't just quit and say the books are good. Because regardless if they really happened, the writing is apparently really bad at conveying that. And the problem still exists.
I am a critic at heart, I love analyzing stuff, I'd go more I depth of I wasn't on phone and like 4am XP. Of course Dash didn't. Because she sucks. And has to almost always be told the moral because she is too dumb to live. Quibble honestly deserves better than Dash's selfish ass. You know what would have been great? Had Daring said yes, she does embellish her stories. Not everything is 100% true. And then Dash would be knocked down a peg. Both of them would have. But no, Dash is protagonist.
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Bleh, I hated all her smirks and stuff when it came to Yearling. Then how she asks a completely stupid thing just because she wants to get back at Quibble by making him a suspect? Come on, give me a break from your childishness. Your an adult, act like one. The face she pulls though when Yearlig saves them and she hugs them. Good god, I wanted to punch her so hard and so much. Gosh darn fictional characters making my blood pressure rise XD
Dash is just... The worst. I never understood why people liked her from the start, as she was a selfish jerk. But lolz, she has the gay pride flag on her head. But yeah, Quibble is nice civil and I actually love that despite everything he experienced he doesn't just quit and say the books are good. Because regardless if they really happened, the writing is apparently really bad at conveying that. And the problem still exists.
I am a critic at heart, I love analyzing stuff, I'd go more I depth of I wasn't on phone and like 4am XP. Of course Dash didn't. Because she sucks. And has to almost always be told the moral because she is too dumb to live. Quibble honestly deserves better than Dash's selfish ass. You know what would have been great? Had Daring said yes, she does embellish her stories. Not everything is 100% true. And then Dash would be knocked down a peg. Both of them would have. But no, Dash is protagonist.
4am. I think it is time for you to sleep. You have done your duty, and I love your critical analysis of this episode. It was awesome, and you made great points that really makes me think twice about Dash and how I viewed stuff. I still like episodes, but you went so much deeper into Dash's personality then I had ever thought before. I love that.
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Lol, it's times like these, I'm glad I'm too dense to let a character's problems make me explode in rage. XD
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Lol, it's times like these, I'm glad I'm too dense to let a character's problems make me explode in rage. XD
I know right? Lol! I always thought I was pretty decent and breaking characters down, but this gal. She's.... SHE WILL TEAR THEM APART. ;)
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Heh, this episode almost made me go into my final form! XP I wasn't close to exploding, Numbers, don't worry. Exploding is reserved for atrocities like Rainbow Falls.
But yeah it probably is. I'm surprised I'm still able to make cohesive thought. But thank you ^^ that was just on the fly heh heh, I was writing in a Google doc earlier. Heh, I'm glad I was able to make peeps think twice, I guess that's one of my main purposes when I do get riled up enough to write a review (hue not even, just flailing about angrily). It's kind of sad, it's episodes like these that really make me hate I ever wrote anything for this character and just makes me not want to do anything more with them.
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I know right? Lol! I always thought I was pretty decent and breaking characters down, but this gal. She's.... SHE WILL TEAR THEM APART ;)
Maybe it's cuz I'm a mean person XP But yeah, I guess it's something I've done even as a little kid. I think too much about these things. But heh, tearing apart? You should seem when I rant about Rarity.
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I liked the episode a lot. I just found Rainbow Dash to be a spoiled brat who felt she and only she has the right opinion. Dash would be one of those prissy annoying punks who runs ten Tumblr blogs that reblog each other spreading her viewpoint and only her viewpoint. Sure she is open to list to others... but really only if they agree with her.
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There's less and less 'mane six' episodes now
it seems like for the last ninety four episodes there was only the 'tail two'.
oh and I really like holding grudges against everybody who dislikes books that I like (or would like). also everybody who thinks the other books in a series arent good enough for them.
CONSIDER YOURSELF WARNED, QUIBBLE(quiball?).
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Oh wow, Daisy is still alive. Hi Daisy! Where have you been?
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omg I'm alive.
I've been on planet Mars
In the milky way galaxy
I can't guarantee that galaxy are very yummy
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Haha, good to see your around. We really miss you. We should take this to the PSF chat, so we don't take this off topic. But I'm really happy you're alright. You were a part of the community, and I've missed your randomness.
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Yeah, I know I've certainly wondered where you have been Daisy. Missed you. Happy to see you. :)
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This season has me excited going forward.
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I've felt the ones I've watched are all meh.
Except for Saddle Row Review.
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I've felt the ones I've watched are all meh.
Except for Saddle Row Review.
You make me so sad, LP! You downing on my season high! How many have you watched this season?
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I'm sorry I'm being a Quibble. My enjoyment (or lack there of) shouldn't impact how you like the show. I just feel people saying it's the strongest season is... Exaggerated. It's just been full of very meh episodes. Or good at the start and then stupid or meh at the end. Or just lazy knock off the same story told over and over again, with just cut and paste characters here and there.
5 or 6 maybe?
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I'm sorry I'm being a Quibble. My enjoyment (or lack there of) shouldn't impact how you like the show. I just feel people saying it's the strongest season is... Exaggerated. It's just been full of very meh episodes. Or good at the start and then stupid or meh at the end. Or just lazy knock off the same story told over and over again, with just cut and paste characters here and there.
5 or 6 maybe?
I will counter by saying the 5-6 you watched must have been the crummy ones, like that one with that Sapphire Spice pone or.... whatever her name was. There were some meh episodes, definitely, this season.
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12 episodes were released before the break.
If 5-6 of them were meh, with even you saying they were meh = to half the episodes released being meh. I don't see how that equates to "strongest season". Even if the other 5-6 I saw are phenomal out of the park episodes, I still don't see how that makes it the strongest season so far.
I'll give it a chance, like I try to do. Hell, even has this episode a chance. Too bad Rainbow just... Ruins every episode she's in. It makes me sad honestly..... That I can't say I hate Rarity the most *starts weeping* because Rainbow is now the one I hate the mohohoooooost!
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ANGRY MANCHILD WITH A NECKBEARD: GAAAAAHHH!! *Flips table over.* Season 1 is the beeeehhhssst! GAAAH! Lauren Faust is the best and did everything for this show... even if she was not even there a season and didn't do a whole lot even then!!!! She only created the characters and world and all the talent and good stuff happened after she left!!!!!!
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12 episodes were released before the break.
If 5-6 of them were meh, with even you saying they were meh = to half the episodes released being meh. I don't see how that equates to "strongest season". Even if the other 5-6 I saw are phenomal out of the park episodes, I still don't see how that makes it the strongest season so far.
I'll give it a chance, like I try to do. Hell, even has this episode a chance. Too bad Rainbow just... Ruins every episode she's in. It makes me sad honestly..... That I can't say I hate Rarity the most *starts weeping* because Rainbow is now the one I hate the mohohoooooost!
Yet you enjoy Dash sneezes? RIGGGHHT?
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Hahaha. I actually hate Season 1. And I think Lauren Faust was a terrible writer :P she lacked subtly so much. The show improved after she left. *prepares the shields*
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Hahaha. I actually hate Season 1. And I think Lauren Faust was a terrible writer :P she lacked subtly so much. The show improved after she left. *prepares the shields*
I agree.
I don't think she was a terrible writer, but she did very little for the shows success. The people who deserve the credit, aren't even known by the community.
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She gave the show it's new look, which really helped the success. She made the framework, and that is about it. It was the other writers who made it successful.
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Well, Jason Theison(?) and Meghan McCarthy are pretty well known. As well as Wootie. And Daniel Ingram who makes the fantastic songs is also well known.
But yeah, Lauren Faust is way too hyper glorified.
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Hahaha. I actually hate Season 1. And I think Lauren Faust was a terrible writer :P she lacked subtly so much. The show improved after she left. *prepares the shields*
Lauren was an incredible world builder but a lackluster storyteller.
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She sort of seemed a bit pre-Madonna. It was either her way, or she wasn't happy, then just left.
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You realize any other brony board, we would be burned at the stake.
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Faust wanted a galaxy girls show, she took ponies as the consolation prize. But from what interviews have said, Soad is pretty on the money.
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But from what interviews have said, Soad is pretty on the money.
What do you mean?
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She sort of seemed a bit pre-Madonna. It was either her way, or she wasn't happy, then just left.
This. A lot of the writers said she was a bit of a dictator when it came to minor, inconsequential shit.
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I bet she was. She has an ego. She comes with a storied past of writing, and is married to an established writer, who executes what he starts and doesn't just quit.
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I imagine Craig lost his shit when she came home and was like "I quit a successful TV show with a major corporation". I dunno, in his shoes I'd be like "...you can't be serious"
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I imagine Craig lost his shit when she came home and was like "I quit a successful TV show with a major corporation". I dunno, in his shoes I'd be like "...you can't be serious"
I know I'd be pretty ticked. Like, seriously? That would have been a lot of added annual income.... just because you felt so entitled that you couldn't have everything exactly your way? Jeez...
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I'd be pretty mad if I were Craig. I'm sure in his head, he was pretty unhappy.
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Wow, you guys are getting pretty deep in convo about the lack of everything Faust did. Is that the new cool thing to hate on her?
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It's not hate, just a feeling of meh towards someone who has something good and walks away from it because of some vague 'creative differences' reason.
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Well she also wanted to do her own thing, and didn't immediately drop off. She just became less and less involved with the show throughout S2 until finally she wasn't even there. It's why a lot of people feel S2 was really good. It's a mixed bag in my opinion. But even after she left the show, she acted really immature about for awhile. Acting really salty and stuff.
I hate that people still take her word as law, it's like, guys she doesn't work there anymore. Anything she says has no effect on what the writers do know.
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Funny thing, I had no idea who she was when I first got into FiM. When people started talking about her as being the person who was designing the latest MLP reboot, I thought maybe Hasbro had run some sort of public contest, and this Lauren person was just some random girl on DA who won. It was sometime after I'd gotten hooked on pone that I found out she'd worked on other stuff before, and I was like, "Oh! She was involved in those shows...that I never really cared for. Okay."
I love the FiM characters and world she came up with. I liked a fair bit of the over-arching ideas and arcs she had in mind, and thought others were crap. Mixed feelings on her as a person; I appreciate what she's done for the Wildlife Learning Center but otherwise don't care much for her.
That said, I do prefer the first two seasons as a whole, though I don't doubt it was at least partly because it was still new--both in the sense that it was the honeymoon period for me as a viewer, and that the show staff were still fleshing out a lot of what would become canon.
I hate that people still take her word as law, it's like, guys she doesn't work there anymore. Anything she says has no effect on what the writers do know.
The show's based entirely on the foundation of her show bible, and they've said they do their best to follow it. So yeah, what she said absolutely has an effect on what gets churned out. They've also agreed with fans who've pointed out when characters acted off-character.
If you mean what she says after having left as to how she would've pursued a concept, then sure, there's no reason the show would follow those ideas.
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She had worked less on the show then many writers already there. There were more episodes and seasons she wasn't there then she was there.
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I meant the stuff she said after she left.
Like she says things that weren't said before hand and people still take what she says for canon. Even though she doesn't work on the show.
Also, the direction she planned to take the show and stuff. She left, it's up to the new writers to see what best direction to take the show.
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Don't get me wrong, she had some pretty cool ideas, but since she hasn't been there to do anything, it's not her baby anymore.
It is still unknown if she could have done what she wanted if she had stayed. But for now, the show is doing a good job. Some things are begin missed such as certain relationships.
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So Meg is like the Stan Lee of MLP: FIM. Except we have yet to see a Pony character based on her turn up in the series.
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I meant the stuff she said after she left.
Like she says things that weren't said before hand and people still take what she says for canon. Even though she doesn't work on the show.
Also, the direction she planned to take the show and stuff. She left, it's up to the new writers to see what best direction to take the show.
Oh, sure. Though I've seen fans ask her things like how she'd have handled certain situations if she was still involved, or what her answer would be to something the show hasn't addressed yet. I don't see anything wrong with being curious about what-ifs. And really, even if they do take her current word as canon over the show, the way they enjoy the show shouldn't affect what I enjoy about it. Even when my ways are clearly superior to theirs but they're just too dense to see it. :3
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The ratings on just this episode alone were over 250,000 viewers. Include the internet viewers and latecomers by a few days, the episode had over a million.
Good start for after the hiatus.
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Good to hear. :) Lets hope it stays up.
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Rainbow doesn't have to be an ass about it or act like a smug b*tch. BlackGryffon is friends with AB's VA and you don't see him acting like a smug jerk because he knows her and her certainly doesn't get angry at people who say Apple Bloom is a bad character. Dash is just so petty and unlikeable in this episode. I get the feel Rainbow feels she's entitled because she knows te author. And then, at the end when Quibble tries to make amends and stop them from fighting and saying they like the books for different reasons, what does Dash say? Be mature and accept it and agree? HahaHaha, no that would actually make her likable. No, she tells him he's got terrible taste in books. Out protagonist people.
I've always hated Dash, but this is a new level. I've only hated her more in Rainbow Falls and Tanks for the Memories.
She had every right to act the way she did. The guy went to a convention just to spit in the face of Yearling. How the hell can you even begin to think he was the decent one in the episode?
You're really grasping at straws to find contrived reasons to make RD seem like the bad pony here. She stuck up for her favorite author like a loyal fan. And that "terrible taste in books" line was clearly a joke. Do you just not understand humor? Because I've seen some really shallow reasons to attack RD, but yours takes the cake.
And I don't care how old this thread is. Somebody needed to call out your BS.
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Wow, necro-ing a 6 month old conversation? Look, I see your new, buuuut, yeah, that's not cool. Necro-ing old ass threads just to argue is kinda rood.
Not that I couldn't put up a good argument, I'm choosing not to. As you're clearly looking for a confrontation here. Don't make your first impression on the forum this. I recommend you go introduce yourself in the Introductions thread.
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Time and place dude.....the time and place for this has looooooooooooooong passed
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Never mind the necro, "Somebody needed to call out your BS" is not in line with PSF's conventional etiquette.
Do not take opinions as a personal attack, and do not personally attack people for their opinions. Your post was 30% rebuttal and 70% attack. Not cool, Bluseymoe. Knock it off.
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Darrin already sent them a message yesterday.
As for bringing up old show topics. That is no big deal. People can always re-watch an episode and find something new they want to bring up. Much rather have that then attacking members.
If you disagree, disagree in a better way.
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I usually use necro for one someone brings up an old thread just to start trouble. I do use it other times, I should find a better word for those other times.
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Really fun episode with great characters that were awesome seeing interact. Didn't care for their "lame" action as much, but fun overall. 8/10.
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I think it was really cute. 8.