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Title: Steven Universe Discussion
Post by: Blurr on 2016-01-26 15:09:23
Anyone else here a fan of the growing phenomenon show, Steven Universe?
Title: Re: Steven Universe Discussion
Post by: yasl on 2016-01-26 15:25:51
Yep yep.  It's 100% adorable.  Great themes too, while never sermonizing or becoming anvilicious.  Damn good work in (ostensibly) a kids show.
Title: Re: Steven Universe Discussion
Post by: Death Blossom on 2016-01-26 16:24:01
You know it. I think it's a good show.
Title: Steven Universe
Post by: NostradamusTheSeer on 2016-01-27 18:54:02
It has well-rounded characters, plots which are a good mixture of the serious and the comical, and the unfolding story arc about The Cluster has me awaiting each new episode.
Title: Re: Steven Universe Discussion
Post by: Anyponedrawn on 2016-01-28 11:44:14
I have not kept up much since Peridot was in some barn with them and had a fight with Pearl. 
Title: Re: Steven Universe Discussion
Post by: Death Blossom on 2016-01-28 12:48:31
Dude you need to catch up!
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Post by: MasterXtreme on 2016-01-28 12:56:00
I need to catch up too then.  ;)

I've been watching "We Bare Bears."
Title: Re: Steven Universe Discussion
Post by: Death Blossom on 2016-01-28 13:26:28
Oh my gosh! That show is adorable! I love it.
Title: Re: Steven Universe Discussion
Post by: Blurr on 2016-01-28 14:22:20
Catch up you must. Things have progressed so frickin much.
Title: Re: Steven Universe Discussion
Post by: Soda on 2016-01-29 15:40:39
This made me laugh.  It would be rated mature due to language content, no swearing, but just the subject matter.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-K-zqLNtcw
Title: Re: Steven Universe Discussion
Post by: Blurr on 2016-01-29 16:18:04
What the......?
Title: Re: Steven Universe Discussion
Post by: Umbreon on 2016-01-30 13:19:07
Yeah Steven universe is a good show I watch it sometimes.
Title: Re: Steven Universe Discussion
Post by: 1234 on 2016-01-30 13:27:47
This made me laugh.  It would be rated mature due to language content, no swearing, but just the subject matter.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-K-zqLNtcw
That was another disturbing video I've seen in my life.

I guess I've seen worse. :P
Title: Re: Steven Universe Discussion
Post by: Death Blossom on 2016-02-04 07:00:13
SU comes back tonight!
Title: Re: Steven Universe Discussion
Post by: Blurr on 2016-02-04 13:44:34
Wait....it does?
Title: Re: Steven Universe Discussion
Post by: Blurr on 2016-02-04 14:32:04
I think there may have been some confusion River. There's no new Steven tonight
Title: Re: Steven Universe Discussion
Post by: Death Blossom on 2016-02-04 15:49:18
They lied, my friend lied. I was so excited.
Made me look a fool.
Title: Re: Steven Universe Discussion
Post by: Blurr on 2016-02-04 15:58:08
bad friend....
Title: Re: Steven Universe Discussion
Post by: Death Blossom on 2016-02-04 17:50:43
Well he was misinformed too. So it's not his fault.
Title: Re: Steven Universe Discussion
Post by: Blurr on 2016-02-04 19:17:39
I've been watching for new airdates but nothing has come up
Title: Re: Steven Universe Discussion
Post by: Blurr on 2016-02-04 19:17:56
Except for one spoiler which shall not be said
Title: Re: Steven Universe Discussion
Post by: Death Blossom on 2016-02-04 20:00:43
You mean the one about your precious waifu?
That was actually fake. My friend told me.
Title: Re: Steven Universe Discussion
Post by: Blurr on 2016-02-04 20:10:27
Uh huh yeah. I don't find your friend's info credible. And there's no frickin way that was fake
Title: Re: Steven Universe Discussion
Post by: Death Blossom on 2016-02-04 20:19:17
My friend made a mistake today, he even admitted that.

But that spoiler is fake. Why would they spoiler something so far in advance while not even hinting at even bigger questions like, what happened to Jasper, why aren't they fused anymore, how did they find them? No, it doesn't make sense. It's fake.
Title: Re: Steven Universe Discussion
Post by: Blurr on 2016-02-04 23:05:37
Mistakes can be made. They're called leaks. They don't mean to happen but things can slip through. Whole episodes of pony have been leaked onto the Internet and iTunes. Hell. A whole mid production version of xmen origins wolverine got leaked back in 2009. So I bielieve that it's possible for a few seconds of a future episode to be leaked onto the net. I stand by its real.

Buuuut.....since we have different viewpoints, care to place a wager?
Title: Re: Steven Universe Discussion
Post by: Silverwing on 2016-02-05 00:21:38
My friend made a mistake today, he even admitted that.

But that spoiler is fake. Why would they spoiler something so far in advance while not even hinting at even bigger questions like, what happened to Jasper, why aren't they fused anymore, how did they find them? No, it doesn't make sense. It's fake.

What is this spoiler that some believe and others do not? 
Title: Re: Steven Universe Discussion
Post by: Blurr on 2016-02-05 01:21:30
Are you sure you wanna know?
Title: Re: Steven Universe Discussion
Post by: Death Blossom on 2016-02-05 06:43:08
I was about to say the same thing >:D
Bring it on haha
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Post by: Death Blossom on 2016-02-05 06:43:47
If you're gonna tell Silver, better do it over PM. So people who don't want to be spoiled aren't.
Title: Re: Steven Universe Discussion
Post by: Blurr on 2016-02-05 11:32:45
Ok. We're both writers. So how about we use that as a bet? Only time will tell if either of us is right. So my proposal:

If it turns out I am right, then you have to write a one shot story of my choosing. And if it turns out you are right, then name your price.
Title: Re: Steven Universe Discussion
Post by: Death Blossom on 2016-02-05 11:34:49
Hue hue hue hue.

How soon do think the episode will appear? Do you think it'll be the next new episode or what? I just doubt that episode will happen any time soon. There has to be a lot more that happens before that episode is even close to happening. If it even is real.

And if I win... Hmm... Don't want to hurt your wallet, as I know you're saving up money... Hm, maybe I'll just ask you to write me a story as well :p
Title: Re: Steven Universe Discussion
Post by: Blurr on 2016-02-05 11:38:41
Well I don't know WHEN it will appear. But I think I know what episode it could be. The episode Barn Mates where Steven tries to help two friends get along. And yeah I also think a good few episodes will happen before that one.

So do we have a bet?

*Holds out hand*
Title: Re: Steven Universe Discussion
Post by: Death Blossom on 2016-02-05 11:42:32
Hmm.... Let's see.... To bet or not to bet....
That is the question.
Title: Re: Steven Universe Discussion
Post by: Blurr on 2016-02-05 11:52:49
its your call
Title: Re: Steven Universe Discussion
Post by: Death Blossom on 2016-02-06 12:49:30
Okay, I bet that the scene depicted in that trailer will not happen.
Deal?
Title: Re: Steven Universe Discussion
Post by: Blurr on 2016-02-06 13:06:15
You're on. *Holds out hand*
Title: Re: Steven Universe Discussion
Post by: Death Blossom on 2016-02-06 13:11:01
Winner gets a story? Or shall we up this?
Title: Re: Steven Universe Discussion
Post by: Blurr on 2016-02-06 14:23:16
Did you have an idea?
Title: Re: Steven Universe Discussion
Post by: Death Blossom on 2016-02-06 16:16:16
Hmm... $10 and a story? Or too much?
Title: Re: Steven Universe Discussion
Post by: Blurr on 2016-02-06 17:14:03
10 bucks huh? I can manage that
Title: Re: Steven Universe Discussion
Post by: Death Blossom on 2016-02-06 18:28:57
Cool.
Title: Re: Steven Universe Discussion
Post by: Blurr on 2016-02-06 19:10:01
Then we have an accord
Title: Re: Steven Universe Discussion
Post by: Death Blossom on 2016-02-06 19:46:08
Yep. We need a witness lol XD
Title: Re: Steven Universe Discussion
Post by: Blurr on 2016-02-06 20:02:06
Anyone else in here?
Title: Re: Steven Universe Discussion
Post by: Death Blossom on 2016-02-06 23:05:11
Now we wait XD
Title: Re: Steven Universe Discussion
Post by: Blurr on 2016-02-07 02:40:16
Yup
Title: Re: Steven Universe Discussion
Post by: MasterXtreme on 2016-02-14 11:43:37
So some one catch me up with spoilers and all.  Where are we at now? 

Last I remember, other kept telling Steven not to trust the Crystal Gems.  Has that panned out and was their truth to that? 
Title: Re: Steven Universe Discussion
Post by: 1234 on 2016-02-14 11:48:36
I may be late to tell you this, Blurr, Leaping.

I'm your witness. ;)
Title: Re: Steven Universe Discussion
Post by: Death Blossom on 2016-02-14 13:21:21
Woo.
Others kept telling Steven not to trust the Crystal Gems? You talking about Lapis? Lol
Title: Re: Steven Universe Discussion
Post by: Blurr on 2016-03-30 20:10:55
We finally have a date

http://www.beachcitybugle.com/2016/03/su-renewed-for-season-5-new-episodes-in.html
Title: Re: Steven Universe Discussion
Post by: Death Blossom on 2016-03-30 20:24:21
No spoilers in this link?

But yeah, my friend says it's supposed to run from June to August. Which is awesome ^^
Title: Re: Steven Universe Discussion
Post by: Blurr on 2016-03-30 20:25:08
NO spoilers. Just news
Title: Re: Steven Universe Discussion
Post by: Death Blossom on 2016-03-30 20:26:45
K cool.
I'm excited ^^
Title: Re: Steven Universe Discussion
Post by: NostradamusTheSeer on 2016-04-08 07:26:26
June, eh?

So anyone here seen the original pilot episode? The characters all look very different.  Pearl, in particular, looks rather cute with that punky  '80's 'do.
Title: Re: Steven Universe Discussion
Post by: Death Blossom on 2016-04-08 08:03:33
I saw the original pilot. Didn't really like Pearl's look so much. Amethyst's was pretty cool looking, and Garnet was okay. And Steven's design was a little eeeeh, but the episode itself was really fun.
Title: Re: Steven Universe Discussion
Post by: FoxTail on 2016-04-21 06:38:47
An interesting read on why Steven Universe has such a strange release schedule on Cartoon Network.

http://www.avclub.com/article/steven-universes-frustrating-schedule-crucial-its--234864
Title: Re: Steven Universe Discussion
Post by: Death Blossom on 2016-04-21 06:45:28
This is before reading the article, but I've realized the way they release it is usually pertinent to how the timing of the episodes go. They started doing Steven Bombs when the story was becoming more sequential and not episodic. So episodes every day for 5 days allowed them to paint out the story well and make it seem more streamline. When they air every week it gives it a feel of more time inbetwen each episode. But that's just my take on it.
Title: Re: Steven Universe Discussion
Post by: Silverwing on 2016-04-21 07:51:51
What is a Steven Bomb?  Like drop a bunch of episodes at once?
Title: Re: Steven Universe Discussion
Post by: Death Blossom on 2016-04-21 08:00:59
Steven Bombs is when a new Steven Universe episode is aired every day for 5 days.
Title: Re: Steven Universe Discussion
Post by: Silverwing on 2016-04-22 03:06:38
Alright, i was right. :D 

I don't know if dropping a bunch of episodes at once is good for a show.  I feel it belittles the work they put into them.  Once a week for a new episode seems like a good plan, because people can plan for that to see it. 
Title: Re: Steven Universe Discussion
Post by: Death Blossom on 2016-04-22 07:33:08
Yeah but, they don't do it often. They do it every like, year practically because they spend so much time making the episodes. Then they go on hiatus for another 6 months.

And I don't think anyone belittles the work they put Ito each episode when you see how beautiful the animation is.
Title: Re: Steven Universe Discussion
Post by: Wolfwood on 2016-09-17 16:10:20
So would someone care to explain this episode to me?  It just seemed like an episode that was very confusing and it could have described or alluded to so many things, but... I couldn't tell if I liked it or was grossed out.

So in the episode, we see sexual sex moves by the Gems trying to teach Steven to Fusion.  He eventually accidentally fuzes with his female friend... so they turn into a giant woman thing? 

What the actual f***?  Like... how did this get allowed to pass censors?  This episode is so rife with sexual things.  Then if just gets more awkward as I don't know who is talking, Steven or Connie throughout the episode.  What was this episode's message?  What was it trying to say?  Was it telling us not to get taken advantage of or... what?  Garnet was all for this fusion at a young age, Pearl wasn't... what.... what was this? 

We got fans of the show here that know far more then me.
Title: Re: Steven Universe Discussion
Post by: Death Blossom on 2016-09-17 17:26:16
That's the point!
Stevonie is both them. It's supposed to feel awkward in this situations. When they're confident they speak as one, when they're not feeling good or confused or awkward they start speaking as individuals. It's showing them splitting apart, no longer in a union.

And as for fusion, it's more along a relationship type thing. It's not sexual per say. It depends. But the only "sexual" move really was when Garnet held Pearl against the wall. But other than that, it's just that. Dancing. It's to help synchronize the two gems or beings into working together and being in the same mind state.

Stevonnie is supposed to represent them both. It's supposed to represent their relationship. Not sexual, but ther trust and closeness to each other. That they're so close they can act as one. But once one isn't in synch, the fusion fails.

The joke is that Pearl thinks it's inappropriate because Steven is fusing with a human. The joke is it alludes to like, young teens having sex. But it's not what it represents. It's just a joke in a way. What Pearl was freaked out about was Steven fusing with a human since gems aren't supposed to be able to fuse with humans. Garnet was happy because Steven was able to experience something wonderful, being able to be so in synch with someone that he achieved fusion. Something they weren't sure he could do.
Title: Re: Steven Universe Discussion
Post by: Grapefoot on 2016-09-17 22:58:01
So weird you are talking about this episode.  I just watched it today and didn't know what to think.  I thought it was really weird and all I was thinking is that this was a big episode on underage sex.  I did think of relationships a bit, but the first thought dominated.  I couldn't tell what I thought of the episode, it was just overall really awkward.  It could almost come off a brilliant of a jumbled mess with too many possible meanings.  It could come off as lazy and poorly executed.

Because there was something going on there with that guy at the dance, he wanted some of Stevonnie.... and what made it creepier is that they were both underage kids, and Stevonnie was partially a guy.... And then when the broke a part, everyone was just... chill with that?

Lars and his girlfriend, that was awkward too.  I couldn't tell who of Stevonnie was talking in that scene, and Lar's girlfriend even seemed to like her? 

So I was at odds with this one.  I'd never seen it before.
Title: Re: Steven Universe Discussion
Post by: Death Blossom on 2016-09-17 23:22:26
Lazy and poorly executed? I don't think so. I thought it was a rather beautiful episode. It wasn't about underage sex or any of that. Heck, Steven is only 13 in that episode. Hardly sexually mature at all.

The part with the teen dude at the dance was meant to be creepy. It supposed to sort of represent that with being older while it's great, there's also unpleasant stuff. Like people expecting stuff of you that you don't want or making advances on you when you don't understating why they would. The guy doesn't know they're two kids much less that Stevonnie is part guy, and the second they unfuse he freaks out and leaves saying "that's two kids! I'm out!". Everyone else already knows Steven and he does weird Gem shit. So they're just like whatever. The audience is privy to information some on screen characters aren't aware of. Kevin (the guy hitting on Stevonnie) doesn't know about Steven or the gems, he didn't realize they were two kids until the defused, or that Stevonnie is partially a guy. We know that. But he didn't. Which makes the scene more creepy for us. Don't get me wrong, Kevin is still a dick bag for continuing to bother a young girl to do something she didn't want despite her feeling uncomfortable and telling him to leave her alone.

Lars and Sadie aren't an item... They've at most have had sex with each other, but they're not in a relationship. And again, the scenes that are awkward are meant to be awkward because it's an awkward situation. Is there like, something wrong with Sadie being attracted to what she believes is a pretty young girl that looks around her age? Stevonnie is neither male or female it seems, but I feel in terms of appearance does look like a chick more. Hence why Lars was all "whaaa". As for who's speaking, it's Stevonnie speaking. Like when Garnet speaks, it's not either Ruby or Saphire, it's Garnet. It's both of them, because they are in unison. There's moments where Stevonnie is talking between the two people composing the fusion, but through context you can tell, or does it matter? Does it matter who asked "are you okay" and "we can stop if you want" if both are very likely to have said it.
Title: Re: Steven Universe Discussion
Post by: RainySunshine on 2016-09-17 23:26:44
Wow, what do you mean Lars and Sadie aren't in a relationship?  They totally are.  They totally have an odd spark.  I haven't seen the latest episodes, but from what I've seen, they totally had a thing going. 
Title: Re: Steven Universe Discussion
Post by: Death Blossom on 2016-09-17 23:29:29
Lars has explicitly stated he and Sadie aren't girlfriend boyfriend. Multiple times, I think. And pretty aggressively.
Sadie wants there to be, hence her actions in the Island Adventure. And I agree they have a spark, and have had sex if Sadie's awkward phrasing and quick agreeing when Steven misunderstood her wording is to be believed. But they aren't in a relationship. Apparently what happened that night didn't happen again. And while they care for each other, they're not official.
Title: Re: Steven Universe Discussion
Post by: RainySunshine on 2016-09-17 23:33:08
Well, Lar's did enthusiastically decide to go over to Sadie's... and I think that was him opening up to... well... try to be in more of a relationship. 
Title: Re: Steven Universe Discussion
Post by: Death Blossom on 2016-09-17 23:38:14
In which episode? A more recent one, yeah, because they seem to be repairing their relationship after the ending of Island Adventure where they kind of blew up at each other. But he was also trying to get off work. He does seem to like Sadie, but at the same time doesn't want to pursue it(?). Lars is a weird guy, and I honestly love his character. And his interactions with Sadie always make me happy. I agree they are becoming closer and all, with Lars in an older episode only joining a movie night because he heard Ronaldo was going there with Sadie. So... It's weird. And complicated. But he's a bit of a complicated guy himself. He's a jerk, but he's a very self conscious jerk.
Title: Re: Steven Universe Discussion
Post by: RainySunshine on 2016-09-17 23:40:41
I think Lars doesn't pursue it because deep down he is kind of afraid too.  There is some underlying thing, and you brought up what I was going too, with Ronaldo and Sadie.

Title: Re: Steven Universe Discussion
Post by: Death Blossom on 2016-09-17 23:44:37
I actually really dislike Ronaldo. He's really annoying to me. There's also the fact that he tried to freaking murder somebody, "It should've been you!!" and didn't apologize for it. But he is fun at times, and his relationship with his dad is sweet when it's glanced at.

I find it interesting that even from a young, what's supposed to be carefree age, that Lars was very self conscious about his image. Usually kids don't care about that stuff, from my knowledge... But yeah. He seems to get easily embarrassed and flustered. While I really don't like the whole "jerk mask facade" thing, as its old and overused, I feel it's slightly different with him. Because even in private he's still a jerk XD just a little less of one.
Title: Re: Steven Universe Discussion
Post by: RainySunshine on 2016-09-17 23:47:29
Lars live in his own private hell.  He only seems to break out of it at times when he is with Sadie, and a few times he's bonded with Steven.

Ronaldo.  I like totally know him, he's believable.  But yeah... he did try to murder someone, that is an issue. 
Title: Re: Steven Universe Discussion
Post by: Death Blossom on 2016-09-17 23:51:07
Yeah, he seems to be a vulnerable character. Like when he broke down and cried in front of Sadie and asked her a very open question. That was sweet. And then the times he's let a little loose with Steven. He can be a nice guy, but he has a jerk type personality. Which is coo. Apparently his parents also fear him a bit, so I'm guessing he also has anger issues and shizz.

I honesty laughed when in a newer episode his dad reveals he has Heelies XD that just killed me. Like, give the kid 10 points back, that was great. And he got a bit of karma when his girlfriend dumped him. Though that felt a bit unfair maybe.
Title: Re: Steven Universe Discussion
Post by: RainySunshine on 2016-09-17 23:54:23
Yeah, he seems to be a vulnerable character. Like when he broke down and cried in front of Sadie and asked her a very open question. That was sweet. And then the times he's let a little loose with Steven. He can be a nice guy, but he has a jerk type personality. Which is coo. Apparently his parents also fear him a bit, so I'm guessing he also has anger issues and whizz.

I know, it gets real there.  People sometimes just assume that guys can't be emotional, but he really broke down in that scene, and it really added depth to him.  It was a sweet moment.

Lol, poor Ronaldo!  Can't catch a break. 
Title: Re: Steven Universe Discussion
Post by: Death Blossom on 2016-09-17 23:58:30
That's what I like about the show. Even its side characters are pretty well developed without going the Adventure Time route and having /too/ many side or background characters developed without much central focus to the man characters. Steven helps keep it anchored. And while it's maybe more surprising to see guys show emotion, it was pretty heartfelt there. Very powerful emotion, he was just so sad and lost feeling. It was a good moment.

Yeah, poor guy. He's gotten better though. Or maybe it's just he's not in the focus as much haha.
Title: Re: Steven Universe Discussion
Post by: RainySunshine on 2016-09-18 00:00:35
I ... I related to that Lars moment, so yeah, it was powerful.  I didn't cry per-say, but, I just totally felt that lost moment of needing to cry out.

I'm far too manly like our commander in chief, DARRIN. ;)  I was not paid to say that... 

But yeah, the show does this character development thing so much better then AT has.  AT has gotten lost. 
Title: Re: Steven Universe Discussion
Post by: Death Blossom on 2016-09-18 00:15:26
Everyone at some point or another has felt the need to just be able to cry and ask someone or talk to someone about their biggest fears or something. Or at least one of those things. I think I empathized with Lars there.

Haha, Darrin is definition of manliness XP

AT does a good job, but it gets very distracted in what it wants to do.
Title: Adventure Time
Post by: NostradamusTheSeer on 2016-09-18 09:36:46
It does get a  bit off-track with its Day in the The Limelight episodes, or any episode with Ice King's bizarre "Cake and Fiona" fantasies, although sometimes those detours can be pretty interesting.  The "Stakes arc was pretty epic, and anything with Lemongrab is a must-see. Here's hoping the season 7 finale might finally answer some questions about just what happened to Ooo about a thousand years ago. Accounts are confused and contradictory, and no one even knows what precisely what year the Mushroom War began (or even what year it is in the "present") or who it was between.

Yeah, Stevonnie is a mind-frig.  "Her" existence opens up a lot of questions, most of which  are NSFW.
Title: Re: Steven Universe Discussion
Post by: Silverwing on 2016-09-28 13:25:39
So whats going on between Lapiz and Peridot?  I think I missed something.  They are both living in a barn and Lapiz seems very blah now.
Title: Re: Steven Universe Discussion
Post by: Death Blossom on 2016-09-28 13:33:48
Nothing. Absolutely nothing.
They're roommates or something now basically only because Lapis hates being anywhere else and Peridot can't fit in the Crystal Gems home.

Lapis kinda sucks and is really lame.

Also, another hiatus :/ is it bad I'm becoming numb to these?
Title: Re: Steven Universe Discussion
Post by: Blurr on 2016-09-28 14:31:15
I think we all are.
Title: Re: Steven Universe Discussion
Post by: Anyponedrawn on 2016-09-28 17:26:40
Lapis seemed so cool early when we first met her but she seems very boring now. I thought she was drugged or something. Peridot became the happy bubbly one.
Title: Re: Steven Universe Discussion
Post by: Death Blossom on 2016-09-28 17:57:50
Peridot is enjoying earth, finally letting loose.
Lapis is just boring now. I really dislike her now.
Title: Re: Steven Universe Discussion
Post by: Soda on 2016-09-28 21:45:34
Lapis became very boring.  The first time Steven freed here, she seemed like she was gonna be really friendly and cool and all, but then she just became bllaaaah. 
Title: Re: Steven Universe Discussion
Post by: Death Blossom on 2016-09-28 21:51:54
Lapis didn't ever seem like she'd be freindly and cool, at least when I first watched the show.
She had like an episode to be badass and after that she just became a little bitch.

She's also kind of a horrible person. Wanting to return to a "relationship" with Jasper just so she could dominate and keep her tied down. And vent all her hatred onto her. Like what the flying fuk. This is character I'm supposed to sympathize with? I sympathize more with Jasper than her.
Title: Re: Steven Universe Discussion
Post by: Soda on 2016-09-28 21:55:05
Jasper got corrupted for having sex with a corrupted gem... they were like an STD... sorry... thats what I thought when I saw that scene. ;)

But yeah, no, Lapis isn't very nice.  She's been used by so many people, she's given up hope on everyone.  But I still don't sympathize for her as you think I might.  I don't, and it's probably because of her cruddy intentions.  I don't even know what she is doing around still.
Title: Re: Steven Universe Discussion
Post by: Death Blossom on 2016-09-28 22:05:17
Well that was the intended allegory so....
Jasper I feel is supposed to somewhat be an allegory for say a sex addict, or a drug addict. Constantly wanting the high of the first time and chasing down any means possible to do it. Even if it means putting their well being at risk. Like when she fused with the corrupted gems. It spread the corruption to her. But also noticed how the corruption sped up as her mental state continued to break, just like Centipeedle when she was recounting how she became corrupted. It's very interesting and I wonder if there is a correlation. Probably not by whatever.

I really just dislike Lapis. She infuriates me. And even more so the fans that ship Lapidot. I think the ship is absolute garbage. But oh we gotta mash up our favorite waifu's together even though they probably wouldn't work out and Lapis is a total bitch. Sure she has her nice moments, but overall she doesn't really care about anyone other than Steven and that's only because he rescued her from the mirror.
Title: Re: Steven Universe Discussion
Post by: Soda on 2016-09-28 22:09:40
Oh... SO I WAS RIGHT?!  YES!  Nice comparison too, that makes sense.  She went insane and like grabbed the poor corrupted gem.

I hate fan ships in general.  I would in many cases prefer an OC ship to a main character then main characters being shipped just because with no thought or reasoning.

Lapis is selfish. 
Title: Re: Steven Universe Discussion
Post by: Death Blossom on 2016-09-28 22:17:55
Yeah, it was also very sad how she said nobody she fused with ever stayed with her. It makes me sad honestly. Jasper is somewhat like Peridot in that she doesn't know anything besides what Honeworld taught her. But the thing is, she fought in the war so she's insanely more difficult to probably change her mind about the people she sees as enemies.

Ew no! I hate OC to canon character. Those are literally the most cancerous ships. I don't mind canon x canon. I like it if it's explained well. Lapidot isn't. Their reasoning is "it's cute" and "they live together" which I think is just, pardon me, retarded. Like what? I sort of somewhat like Pearl and Amethyst, but not much. Honestly I don't like any ships for the show except Sadie and Lars. Ruby and Saphire I guess counts as a ship, but they're canon so... Not much you can play with there lol.

She is. I hope she gets some sense knocked into her soon.
Title: Re: Steven Universe Discussion
Post by: Soda on 2016-09-28 22:31:25
I'm not say OC to canon in general.  I mean, some OC are very well thought out, and not cookie cutter.  A lot of fan ships are just throwing to canon characters together just for the sake of doing so.

An example being, why is everyone okay with the OC Greg hooking up with Adorkable Twilight? 
Title: Re: Steven Universe Discussion
Post by: Death Blossom on 2016-09-28 22:59:33
A lot of people like Greg because he was one of the first actually nice decent people in the comic. And he continues to be a nice guy. Some others don't like him because he's just "a nice guy" without any real personality. And I can see their point. He really just is "a nice guy" and that's it. And yeah, while some OC's are good, a lot of them are complete garbage. And I disagree, for SU yeah, it's mostly just throwing two characters together because they like both of them and want to see porn of them. But for other shows, there is more behind it. And even with SU say Pearl and Garnet, they seem pretty close and people want to explore that relationship more. But it doesn't really work since Garnet is already a relationship.
Title: Steven Universe Discussion
Post by: NostradamusTheSeer on 2016-09-29 06:26:56
Jasper got corrupted for having sex with a corrupted gem... they were like an STD... sorry... that's what I thought when I saw that scene.

So Jasper has space AIDS?

Yeah, someone said something similar at the SU Wikia. For characters who are supposedly sexless, there sure is a lot of sexual undertone to this show.

Steven and Connie could be considered a canon couple, right?    I mean, they're still young yet, and both pretty naive, but everyone loves a good "childhood sweethearts" story.
Title: Re: Steven Universe Discussion
Post by: Anyponedrawn on 2016-09-29 22:36:26
Jasper had space sexually transmitted diseases but she blew up apparently and is DEAD. 

This whole show in la-man terms is a bunch of lesbians trying to have sex with one another.  And they save the world!

Ha ha!  And people thought 80s cartoons were weird! 
Title: Re: Steven Universe Discussion
Post by: Darrin on 2016-09-30 11:55:39
Jasper had space sexually transmitted diseases but she blew up apparently and is DEAD. 

This whole show in la-man terms is a bunch of lesbians trying to have sex with one another.  And they save the world!

Ha ha!  And people thought 80s cartoons were weird!

I doubt that is what Cartoon Network was expecting when they green lighted the show. 
Title: Re: Steven Universe Discussion
Post by: Blurr on 2016-10-07 07:23:16
5 brand new shorts were released a few days ago. The PD reaction is going up now.
Title: Re: Steven Universe Discussion
Post by: Silverwing on 2016-10-10 21:12:25
I just saw the episode, "Beach City Drift."  I really liked it!  They animated it very good too.
Title: Re: Steven Universe Discussion
Post by: Blurr on 2016-10-11 04:15:30
I liked that episode fair enough but I had some problems with it. That doesn't happen all too often for me with SU
Title: Re: Steven Universe Discussion
Post by: Death Blossom on 2016-10-11 06:56:36
You didn't like Beach City Drift? How come?

I thought it was a nice solid episode.
Title: Re: Steven Universe Discussion
Post by: Blurr on 2016-10-11 07:30:11
I don't buy that the fusion of two children automatically grants them the knowledge of how to drive a car. AND drift. Also, was Greg perfectly fine that his 14 year old son and his friend of pretty much the same age just stole his new car?

It had its ups but I can't help but notice these downs. Now if you'll excuse me, I just got back from work so I'm gonna go to my bed and die for a few hours
Title: Re: Steven Universe Discussion
Post by: Death Blossom on 2016-10-11 09:48:27
Eh, suspension of disbelief. And Greg probably wasn't okay with it. Hence why they stole it. That's the point of stealing something lol. He definitely didn't lend it to them. But yeah, I think a lot of people didn't buy into the whole kids easily learn how to drive a car, but let's be real here, driving a car isn't that hard. Hell, 14 year olds can do it. And they had to manage to drive there so I'm sure they figured out how to use the stick shift. As for drifting, can't explain that. But Connie is pretty smart, she could have figured it out. But eh, I felt that didn't break the episode for me.
Title: Re: Steven Universe Discussion
Post by: Soda on 2016-10-11 11:18:32
I didn't get how that little car kept up and caught up to that fancy yellow car.  Even when they stopped in the middle of the road and yammered on for a good minute. 
Title: Re: Steven Universe Discussion
Post by: Death Blossom on 2016-10-11 11:42:55
It's implies Kevin slowed down a lot to let them catch up so he could see them as he beat them. Or some jazz like that.
Title: Re: Steven Universe Discussion
Post by: RainySunshine on 2016-10-11 22:19:26
I remember that episode.  I liked it.  It was less awkward then the first time Connie and Steven fuzed.  It left a few questions to me as well.  Watching it I just kept hoping they wouldn't wreck the Dad's new/used car.
Title: Re: Steven Universe Discussion
Post by: Blurr on 2017-01-08 13:01:49
The new steven bomb leaked onto the net WAAAAY early
Title: Re: Steven Universe Discussion
Post by: Death Blossom on 2017-01-08 14:17:04
Yeah. I'm trying to be respectful and not watching them.
Title: Re: Steven Universe Discussion
Post by: Kyrl on 2017-01-30 20:25:11
I got around to watching this show yesterday.  CN had a marathon of the first season.  It was...something.  Steven's voice makes it difficult at times. 
Title: Re: Steven Universe Discussion
Post by: RainySunshine on 2017-01-30 20:25:42
You kind of in the middle at this point? 
Title: Re: Steven Universe Discussion
Post by: Kyrl on 2017-01-30 20:26:11
I got as far as the one where Garnet teaches Steven about causality.  That one made me giggle. 
Title: Re: Steven Universe Discussion
Post by: Death Blossom on 2017-01-30 20:27:09
Steven gets a lot less annoying later.
Title: Re: Steven Universe Discussion
Post by: Kyrl on 2017-01-30 21:09:53
I hope so.  His voice is rough.
Title: Re: Steven Universe Discussion
Post by: Anyponedrawn on 2017-03-09 16:17:00
Also there is a Steven Universe RPG coming to the PS4 (http://www.ign.com/articles/2017/03/09/steven-universe-rpg-coming-to-ps4-this-year) later this year.
Title: Re: Steven Universe Discussion
Post by: Death Blossom on 2017-03-09 17:12:13
Ooh, cool.
Title: Re: Steven Universe Discussion
Post by: FoxTail on 2017-11-26 21:11:31
So I originally liked this show kind of... but after watching every episode I could see, I really dislike this series more and more, to the point I really dislike this show, ha!
 It is nothing but liberal propaganda of sex, anti man, and it is really disturbing if you think about it.  The fusing with under age kids, and so much more.  I know this is a radical view for an equally radical show, but I have finally taken the time to see it all and give my opinion.  It seems to never go anywhere, and anyone who disapproves of the direct views in the show is evil. 

We still don't even know why the "Home World" is evil other then the Crystal Gems don't like them because the Home World won't let them fuse with whomever they want... is that the main reason? 

The female characters are always superior and the male characters are always wrong.  Personally I am glad CN is stopping showing this show.  It just isn't good, which is a shame, because it had so much promise.  Part of it has to do with the direction of the host, Rebecca Sugar. 

I wanted to like the show, but... I don't.  End.
Title: Re: Steven Universe Discussion
Post by: Wolfwood on 2017-11-26 21:26:03
So I originally liked this show kind of... but after watching every episode I could see, I really dislike this series more and more, to the point I really dislike this show, ha!
 It is nothing but liberal propaganda of sex, anti man, and it is really disturbing if you think about it.  The fusing with under age kids, and so much more.  I know this is a radical view for an equally radical show, but I have finally taken the time to see it all and give my opinion.  It seems to never go anywhere, and anyone who disapproves of the direct views in the show is evil. 

We still don't even know why the "Home World" is evil other then the Crystal Gems don't like them because the Home World won't let them fuse with whomever they want... is that the main reason? 

The female characters are always superior and the male characters are always wrong.  Personally I am glad CN is stopping showing this show.  It just isn't good, which is a shame, because it had so much promise.  Part of it has to do with the direction of the host, Rebecca Sugar. 

I wanted to like the show, but... I don't.  End.

Welcome to enlightenment.  Worst fanbase in the world, and one of the worst shows with it's message.

This video sucks, but explains it all.  Beware, because the loser video creator has horrible sound editing and ear rape... there are better vids out there I am sure, just too much work to look it up.


The show is nothing but a wet dream for these radical feminists libs. Cartoon Network realized that when things started to get really fucking weird and canned the show, so it doesn't premier on tv much at all.  The show is a SJW show pretty much at all.  Steven is a spoiled turd where he learns nothing and grows super powers only when it is relevant to the plot. He is raised by all lesbian moms in mansion while for no reason, his Dad, who owns a business, lives in a van for no reason.  His Moms don't get him in trouble when he does wrong, and he doesn't go to school.  He can do no wrong even though that is all he does.  He lives in a bubble where he only hears what his Gem parents want him to hear, and anyone who disagrees with their "cause" is destroyed, like ANTIFA at a Berkley college rally when a conservative comes to speak on campus.

Steven Universe in a nutshell.







Of course my opinion means nothing to people who enjoy the show.  That's fine.  I am glad they enjoy it.  Might mean I am a dick, might mean they have really low standards, who really cares, right?  It's a freaking cartoon.
Title: Re: Steven Universe Discussion
Post by: NostradamusTheSeer on 2018-03-16 23:23:33
So is season five the last one?  They still have four more episodes to air. Despite the show's rabid cult following, I fear the last season may be its shortest, clocking in at just 16 episodes-- slipping ratings, perhaps? Too hip for the room?  Still, progress, right? Just a bare fifteen years ago a show like this wouldn't have even seen 13 episodes on most networks.
Title: Re: Steven Universe Discussion
Post by: MasterXtreme on 2018-03-17 00:59:07
*Shrugs*

We just don't know yet.  It has a cult following, but it isn't bringing in ratings.  A lot of people watch it from untraditional sources which might be hurting the television ratings.  But fear not, the rabid fandom that is the SU fans, will be spreading their self-righteousness and fan fiction on Tumblr for years to come.