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Title: Who else has the feeling of stuff getting disliked for no good reason?
Post by: DEEcat98 on 2017-01-14 10:32:43
Now we all have opinions right? Well sometimes when there are people who dislike certain things. They dislike them for no real good reason. Like if it is something that is popular then they just only dislike it because it is popular and if it is something that is for kids then they just only dislike it because it is for kids. Do does sound like real reasons to actually dislike something? No.
Title: Re: Who else has the felling of stuff getting disliked for no good reason?
Post by: Death Blossom on 2017-01-14 11:20:54
Most people have legitimate reasons for disliking things. Because they have standards.

Like the Ghostbusters. It's crap. And j don't dislike it because it's "cool" to dislike it, but because it was just bad. It was unfunny is the main complaint. They had funny people, but the script was just... Bad. The CGI was bad and stuff. Now there are people who did just dislike it just to dislike it, but that's not the biggest amount of people.

Just because someone doesn't like something you like doesn't mean they're hating it for no reason. They could have reasons, and most likely do. And most likely have a standard they expect things to reach that aren't the same as yours.

And something being "for kids" can be a legitiment reason for hating something. Especially if it's too much for kids. If it's stupid frivolous garbage that has no substance other than to be bright and colorful shit to distract your 2 year old for an hour and a half. Just because something is for kids doesn't make it automatically bad, but when people don't try to make it better and treat their demographic with respect and produce crap for kids, then saying "it's for kids" can be a viable reason to hate those steaming piles of shit. Like MLP 3.5. It's strictly for kids. But I wouldn't even show a baby that trash.
Title: Re: Who else has the felling of stuff getting disliked for no good reason?
Post by: Darrin on 2017-01-14 11:23:28
I know what you mean  DEE.  There  are plenty of things like that, but at the moment I can not think of many.

Sort of like how it was "popular" for people to hate the police in certain, stupid, circles. 
Title: Re: Who else has the felling of stuff getting disliked for no good reason?
Post by: Death Blossom on 2017-01-14 11:24:27
*is.
Ftfy Darrin :P
Title: Re: Who else has the felling of stuff getting disliked for no good reason?
Post by: Darrin on 2017-01-14 11:32:22
People like to hate on Star Wars or Star Trek, especially if they are only a fan of one.

People like to hate Walmart simply because it is Walmart.  They label it as poorly treating their employee's and low pay... when actually they pay their starting employee's more then the national average. 
Title: Re: Who else has the felling of stuff getting disliked for no good reason?
Post by: Death Blossom on 2017-01-14 11:36:00
Actually, Walmart is a shit show. They may pay them more, but they do dirty tricks to make sure they don't pay them overtime even if they are working overtime. My friend is more knowledgable about it, he's worked there and shit. It's... Yeah they don't treat their workers the best. At least when it comes to their salary. It's not low pay, but they do skimp out.

I personally like Star Trek. Was never a fan of Star Wars. Just never caught my interest. Too "boring" in my eyes when I was a kid. Star Trek interested me because the first thing my dad showed me was the movie where they save the whales ;P
Title: Re: Who else has the felling of stuff getting disliked for no good reason?
Post by: DEEcat98 on 2017-01-14 11:43:56
Most people have legitimate reasons for disliking things. Because they have standards.

Like the Ghostbusters. It's crap. And j don't dislike it because it's "cool" to dislike it, but because it was just bad. It was unfunny is the main complaint. They had funny people, but the script was just... Bad. The CGI was bad and stuff. Now there are people who did just dislike it just to dislike it, but that's not the biggest amount of people.

Just because someone doesn't like something you like doesn't mean they're hating it for no reason. They could have reasons, and most likely do. And most likely have a standard they expect things to reach that aren't the same as yours.

And something being "for kids" can be a legitiment reason for hating something. Especially if it's too much for kids. If it's stupid frivolous garbage that has no substance other than to be bright and colorful shit to distract your 2 year old for an hour and a half. Just because something is for kids doesn't make it automatically bad, but when people don't try to make it better and treat their demographic with respect and produce crap for kids, then saying "it's for kids" can be a viable reason to hate those steaming piles of shit. Like MLP 3.5. It's strictly for kids. But I wouldn't even show a baby that trash.

Well colorfulness is the reason why kids can like a certain kid show. That's why their colorful so that it could be one of the things kids could enjoy.
Title: Re: Who else has the felling of stuff getting disliked for no good reason?
Post by: Rainberry on 2017-01-14 11:44:24
I found Star Wars and Star Trek boring.  They never interested me... but as you can see, I have a reason for it. ;) 
Title: Re: Who else has the felling of stuff getting disliked for no good reason?
Post by: DEEcat98 on 2017-01-14 11:46:30
I found Star Wars and Star Trek boring.  They never interested me... but as you can see, I have a reason for it. ;)

Those are fine reasons.
Title: Re: Who else has the felling of stuff getting disliked for no good reason?
Post by: Death Blossom on 2017-01-14 11:46:31
I get the feeling you read nothing else of my long comment. Makes me wonder y I trin sometimes.
Title: Re: Who else has the felling of stuff getting disliked for no good reason?
Post by: DEEcat98 on 2017-01-14 11:47:40
I get the feeling you read nothing else of my long comment.

No I understand what you were saying.
Title: Re: Who else has the felling of stuff getting disliked for no good reason?
Post by: Death Blossom on 2017-01-14 11:49:34
You only responded to the bright and colorful thing when it wasn't even that point alone that talked about why kids movies can be bad. It made me wonder.
Title: Re: Who else has the felling of stuff getting disliked for no good reason?
Post by: DEEcat98 on 2017-01-14 11:52:37
People like to look at colorful things, like me for instance. But there are more stuff to stuff for kids other than them being colorful. They have lessons so that kids can learn a little bit at each step to be just like us older people.
Title: Re: Who else has the felling of stuff getting disliked for no good reason?
Post by: Death Blossom on 2017-01-14 11:54:52
Yeah, but my point was that saying "it's just for kids" is a valid excuse to dislike something when literally there is no substance to it and it's just colorful puke to distract kids with nothing to it. That was my point, that when something for kids does nothing except just try and babysit the kid for an hour, it's bad. And why people use the "it's for kids" thing to justify why they like something. Because those types of things only could hold the attention of 2 year olds. Hence why I was asking if you read my whole comment.
Title: Re: Who else has the felling of stuff getting disliked for no good reason?
Post by: DEEcat98 on 2017-01-14 11:57:44
Oh. But kids still need to watch something that is made to help them learn. That is mostly what kid shows are made for.
Title: Re: Who else has the felling of stuff getting disliked for no good reason?
Post by: Death Blossom on 2017-01-14 12:01:36
*pinches my brow*
I've been saying. When kids shows do nothing expect vomit colorful shit to distract kids. And NOTHINNG else. I even used MLP 3.5 as an example. There are good kids shows. Like that Paw Patrol show, it's interesting, has various characters and small plots. A good kid show. Peter Rabbit, a good kid show, if a bit silly and odd at times.

I am talking about kids shows that don't try. Kids movies that don't try. All the creators know is that careless parents will buy it who sit care about what their kids are watching and just plop it in the DVD player to distract ther kid while they go do something else. Again, why I ask if you're reading my comments lol.
Title: Re: Who else has the felling of stuff getting disliked for no good reason?
Post by: DEEcat98 on 2017-01-14 12:05:23
Kid shows and movies that don't try. Does that mean they barley teach kids stuff?
Title: Re: Who else has the felling of stuff getting disliked for no good reason?
Post by: Death Blossom on 2017-01-14 12:12:23
*head desk, points to example* MLP 3.5.
Yeeees. And not barley ;P

Or completely mess up morals and teach bad ones, or completely mess them up. Confuse kids. They don't try. They don't try with the animation, they dot try wth the voice acting, they don't try with the characters. Basically they don't try. And it happens often with kids shows and movies. Because "kids are stupid" "kids don't care" "kids don't have standards" but no. Kids deserve better than just stupid brightly colored things jumping around doing nothing and accomplishing nothing.
Title: Re: Who else has the felling of stuff getting disliked for no good reason?
Post by: Silverwing on 2017-01-14 12:20:01
Can we at least spell this topic name right?

"felling?"
Title: Re: Who else has the felling of stuff getting disliked for no good reason?
Post by: Death Blossom on 2017-01-14 12:20:33
There go the trees!
Title: Re: Who else has the felling of stuff getting disliked for no good reason?
Post by: Silverwing on 2017-01-14 12:21:26
Shows people like to hate for no good reason.... hmmmm.

Most shows people hate, have good reason to hate them. 
Title: Re: Who else has the felling of stuff getting disliked for no good reason?
Post by: Death Blossom on 2017-01-14 12:21:55
What's that show with the ugly ducks? OH! Breadwinners, yeah that one.
Title: Re: Who else has the felling of stuff getting disliked for no good reason?
Post by: Silverwing on 2017-01-14 12:22:44
What's that show with the ugly ducks? OH! Breadwinners, yeah that one.

What's a reason to like it? 
Title: Re: Who else has the felling of stuff getting disliked for no good reason?
Post by: Rainberry on 2017-01-14 12:24:59
There are no reasons to like that show.  It stinks in every way humanly possible. 
Title: Re: Who else has the felling of stuff getting disliked for no good reason?
Post by: Death Blossom on 2017-01-14 12:29:05
I'm not saying there is any. Yet this still exists: Breadwinners-FC (http://breadwinners-fc.deviantart.com)
Be wary. Melanoma lies beyond that link.
Title: Re: Who else has the feeling of stuff getting disliked for no good reason?
Post by: Silverwing on 2017-01-14 12:29:23
Name changed.  Let's start using this topic with a proper spelling in the name.  It's bugging me.
Title: Re: Who else has the felling of stuff getting disliked for no good reason?
Post by: Rainberry on 2017-01-14 12:30:08
Those 224 people are lunatics! 
Title: Re: Who else has the felling of stuff getting disliked for no good reason?
Post by: Death Blossom on 2017-01-14 12:30:10
Or... I could just change it from the OP.
Title: Re: Who else has the feeing of stuff getting disliked for no good reason?
Post by: Rainberry on 2017-01-14 12:33:44
Change it in OP.
Title: Re: Who else has the feeling of stuff getting disliked for no good reason?
Post by: Death Blossom on 2017-01-14 12:35:11
It actually probably should be: "Who else gets the feeling that stuff gets disliked for no good reasons?"
But I fixed the spelling error.
Title: Re: Who else has the feeling of stuff getting disliked for no good reason?
Post by: Silverwing on 2017-01-14 12:45:42
Thanks.  I can rest easy. 
Title: Re: Who else has the felling of stuff getting disliked for no good reason?
Post by: DEEcat98 on 2017-01-14 12:55:10
*head desk, points to example* MLP 3.5.
Yeeees. And not barley ;P

Or completely mess up morals and teach bad ones, or completely mess them up. Confuse kids. They don't try. They don't try with the animation, they dot try wth the voice acting, they don't try with the characters. Basically they don't try. And it happens often with kids shows and movies. Because "kids are stupid" "kids don't care" "kids don't have standards" but no. Kids deserve better than just stupid brightly colored things jumping around doing nothing and accomplishing nothing.

Can you tell me examples of some bad morals in kid shows?
Title: Re: Who else has the felling of stuff getting disliked for no good reason?
Post by: MasterXtreme on 2017-01-14 13:03:20
Can you tell me examples of some bad morals in kid shows?

Many episode of iCarly and other shows by Schneider, rewarded bad behavior.  Poor choices, yelling, and being spoiled were all what got these characters what they wanted.  They treated adults poorly and were always the smart ones.

Teen Titans go does the same thing, but it is done for humor.  The Titans often never learn a less and often have a bad lesson taught to be funny.
Title: Re: Who else has the feeling of stuff getting disliked for no good reason?
Post by: Death Blossom on 2017-01-14 13:03:55
I don't think my brain could survive discussing in this chat anymore. I'm bailing. Go look up MsysteriousMrEnter on YouTube. Go through his animated atrocities. He can do that job for you.
Title: Re: Who else has the feeling of stuff getting disliked for no good reason?
Post by: DEEcat98 on 2017-01-14 13:07:11
Um those are kid shows that are not kind of shows you see on learning show blocks. Those are kid shows that were mostly made to entertain because not all shows are made to teach morals. Also these are pretty much mostly made as jokes, not really to teach kids something new.
Title: Re: Who else has the feeling of stuff getting disliked for no good reason?
Post by: Death Blossom on 2017-01-14 13:11:56
No. Not at all. Watch some of his videos. Learn some stuff about animation and bad animation and bad shows with bad morals. Because if they're teaching morals, that's why they're doing. And if they do it bad, that's REALLY bad.
I'm done discussing here, I don't want to give myself a headache debating the air.
Title: Re: Who else has the feeling of stuff getting disliked for no good reason?
Post by: Soda on 2017-01-14 20:08:40
Teen Titans GO is disliked because it is mindless and ridiculous, and because it wasn't like the original Teen Titans.... but... if you take it as a completely separate show and want something mindless, it really isn't that bad.

Don't throw stuff at me. 
Title: Re: Who else has the feeling of stuff getting disliked for no good reason?
Post by: Blurr on 2017-01-15 00:00:57
Teen Titans GO is disliked because it is mindless and ridiculous, and because it wasn't like the original Teen Titans.... but... if you take it as a completely separate show and want something mindless, it really isn't that bad.

Don't throw stuff at me.

^^^^^ This.

Also, am I the only one in here who is actually a legit fan of star wars?
Title: Re: Who else has the feeling of stuff getting disliked for no good reason?
Post by: Death Blossom on 2017-01-15 00:06:26
But the thing is, TTG tries to say they're a continuation, or that they're better. And people also hate the pretentious attitude. But if it where a show on its own... It would still be kinda crap. I don't want to see asshole characters win all the time and get no comupence for their wrong doing.

I'm sure some of the other guys like Star Wars too, Blurr.
Title: Re: Who else has the feeling of stuff getting disliked for no good reason?
Post by: Anyponedrawn on 2017-01-15 00:08:27
TTG doesn't say they are a continuation or better.  That is what the fans hyped themselves up to believe.  The shows creator has stated many times the show is a joke and can't compare to the original.  He has said it wasn't meant to be a continuation and it just isn't the same kind of show. 
Title: Re: Who else has the feeling of stuff getting disliked for no good reason?
Post by: Death Blossom on 2017-01-15 00:09:12
I've seen otherwise elsewhere. But okay. My other point still stands though lol.
Title: Re: Who else has the feeling of stuff getting disliked for no good reason?
Post by: Umeko on 2017-01-15 01:53:17
*Munching on popcorn sipping cola* Don't mind me I'm just here for the show *Goes back to reading the comments*
Title: Re: Who else has the feeling of stuff getting disliked for no good reason?
Post by: DEEcat98 on 2017-01-15 09:34:20
Also I notice that a couple of popular things are just only getting hate for their fanbases, when fanbases don't effect the media and their is more to it than the fanbases. That is another example of something getting disliked for no reason other than it is popular.
Title: Re: Who else has the feeling of stuff getting disliked for no good reason?
Post by: MasterXtreme on 2017-01-15 10:33:06
TTG doesn't say they are a continuation or better.  That is what the fans hyped themselves up to believe.  The shows creator has stated many times the show is a joke and can't compare to the original.  He has said it wasn't meant to be a continuation and it just isn't the same kind of show.

It is well documented.  They spent an entire episode making fun of how bad the show is. The episode is called, "The Fourth Wall."  They make fun of their writing and animation throughout the entire episode.


They also did an episode later which was simply clips from the old Teen Titan's show, clipped together to make an episode and the re-dubbed it.  So the show really does not take itself seriously, and it was the fandom that took it to the extreme expecting something it was not.


Young Justice jokes (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTQZykJP23g)
More dubbing (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svyMRufdD7Y)
Title: Re: Who else has the feeling of stuff getting disliked for no good reason?
Post by: Anyponedrawn on 2017-01-15 15:28:32
Oh wow, I didn't know about those episodes.  (I don't watch the show, but I loosely follow show drama in fandoms).
Title: Re: Who else has the felling of stuff getting disliked for no good reason?
Post by: Ari-Dynamic on 2017-01-21 12:06:42
Most people have legitimate reasons for disliking things. Because they have standards.

I couldn't agree more. I very rarely jump on any hate bandwagon. I have a kind of criteria when it comes to seeing things - if I legit hate something, I'll be blunt enough to say it. Nobody has to agree with my opinion.

In wake of things I feel the need to preface most of my critique with "Well, if you like it, all the power to you" or "I'm glad you liked it at least", but I tend to stick to my guns with most stuff.

The best I can do without hurting anyone's feelings is not saying anything at all. XD
Title: Re: Who else has the feeling of stuff getting disliked for no good reason?
Post by: Ari-Dynamic on 2017-01-21 12:09:10
TTG doesn't say they are a continuation or better.  That is what the fans hyped themselves up to believe.  The shows creator has stated many times the show is a joke and can't compare to the original.  He has said it wasn't meant to be a continuation and it just isn't the same kind of show.

It is well documented.  They spent an entire episode making fun of how bad the show is. The episode is called, "The Fourth Wall."  They make fun of their writing and animation throughout the entire episode.


They also did an episode later which was simply clips from the old Teen Titan's show, clipped together to make an episode and the re-dubbed it.  So the show really does not take itself seriously, and it was the fandom that took it to the extreme expecting something it was not.


Young Justice jokes (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTQZykJP23g)
More dubbing (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svyMRufdD7Y)

I remember this episode and the brouhaha that ensued with it.

It doesn't effect me much because A) the Teen Titans I prefer came out during my high school days and I consider it something of a great watch and B) when Teen Titans Go had already came out, I had long since moved away from cartoons. XD I'd enjoy it if I was 13, but at 30? Man, gimme some 'It's Always Sunny in Philadalphia' instead.
Title: Re: Who else has the feeling of stuff getting disliked for no good reason?
Post by: Anyponedrawn on 2017-02-05 00:45:32
Lady Gaga.  Didn't like her because everyone else liked her... and her music SUCKS. 

;)  See.  I am good at this. 
Title: Re: Who else has the feeling of stuff getting disliked for no good reason?
Post by: Death Blossom on 2017-02-05 00:47:25
Pffff. I do enjoy Lady Gaga. Her music is its own brand at times. So strange. Just like her.
And she does have a very nice voice.
Title: Re: Who else has the feeling of stuff getting disliked for no good reason?
Post by: Anyponedrawn on 2017-02-05 00:49:10
*Acts like everyone else.*

I hate Nickelback because all their songs sound the same! 

Oh no!  I hate Daughtry now, even though I voted for him to win Idol!! Aahhh! 

Title: Re: Who else has the feeling of stuff getting disliked for no good reason?
Post by: Death Blossom on 2017-02-05 00:50:49
Haha XD
I never did get why people rip on Nickleback. I don't like listen to all his music. But I do like his one song, the Look at this Photograph one. Kinda makes me a bit sad.
Title: Re: Who else has the feeling of stuff getting disliked for no good reason?
Post by: Anyponedrawn on 2017-02-05 00:54:51
And see, I actually don't mind either and actually enjoy the catchy tunes of Nickelback. 

To each their own. :D 
Title: Re: Who else has the feeling of stuff getting disliked for no good reason?
Post by: Death Blossom on 2017-02-05 01:02:01
I figured you were messin :P
Title: Re: Who else has the feeling of stuff getting disliked for no good reason?
Post by: RainySunshine on 2017-02-05 14:55:15
The thing for Nickelback, is everyone says there songs are the same three songs over and over with different lyrics... they aren't.  But you could make that same case for most all pop music today.  Same formula, same sorta sound, filler and background music.
Title: Re: Who else has the feeling of stuff getting disliked for no good reason?
Post by: DEEcat98 on 2017-02-27 19:25:54
Now when Death Blossom said that most people have legitimate reasons for disliking things. Yes that is true but I am talking about people who just try to act hip and cool by just disliking stuff just because it is popular (take Frozen for example) or just disliking stuff just because it is for kids (shows on Nick Jr and PBS Kids for example) and they just dislike them without giving out a good reason or more than one reason.
Title: Re: Who else has the feeling of stuff getting disliked for no good reason?
Post by: Death Blossom on 2017-02-27 19:47:39
I already explained why people dislike kids shows, and it's not just "because it's for kids". Assuming that's why they dislike the shows isn't right.

And I did notice people not liking Frozen, and while I like it, some people do unjustifiably hate it, while others have good points, while others have retarded points.
Title: Re: Who else has the feeling of stuff getting disliked for no good reason?
Post by: MasterXtreme on 2017-02-27 20:05:17
Nickelback.  People hate them because it is popular to do so. 
Title: Re: Who else has the feeling of stuff getting disliked for no good reason?
Post by: DEEcat98 on 2017-02-27 20:40:14
I already explained why people dislike kids shows, and it's not just "because it's for kids". Assuming that's why they dislike the shows isn't right.

And I did notice people not liking Frozen, and while I like it, some people do unjustifiably hate it, while others have good points, while others have retarded points.

Well yes you did say why people dislike kid shows. But with them being colorful is just the way they are because kids like being entertain and unlike shows for bigger kids there are no bad morals in them because half of them teaches kids about dealing with problems and having friendships with others.
Title: Re: Who else has the feeling of stuff getting disliked for no good reason?
Post by: Death Blossom on 2017-02-27 20:52:18
*facepalm* you don't fully read/understand my points do you?
Title: Re: Who else has the feeling of stuff getting disliked for no good reason?
Post by: DEEcat98 on 2017-02-28 07:20:39
No I do, but as I said kid shows being colorful since they are kid shows and they have morals in them to teach kids how to behave in life. Also mostly they are hated by people who want to act all hip and cool around them like they make fun of them at Middle School and High School.
Title: Re: Who else has the feeling of stuff getting disliked for no good reason?
Post by: Smiles2us on 2017-02-28 08:16:01
But cant we all agree that many kids shows ARE terrible? They are so dumbed down they insult children's minds. They make them so bad because they think they dont need to try because they are kids shows. What good is the Teletubies? What about others? An example of a show that tried for kids was Bob The Builder. They had unique animation and had plots! There is an obvious difference.
Title: Re: Who else has the feeling of stuff getting disliked for no good reason?
Post by: Death Blossom on 2017-02-28 08:53:03
No. That's not it at all. They hate them for ONLY just being colorful vomit meant to distract children instead of having any substance at all. They don't hate GOOD colorful shows (example: MLP 4th gen, Steven Universe). They hate shows that are only meant to distract kids because it means the creators put no effort into the show and know kids will watch anything so they don't TRY and make the show good even though they could.

Say Paw Patrol, a show my neice watches. It's bright, and has nice colors, but there's problems the characters have to face and shit. Even if they are silly or seemingly simple problems to adults and teens, it's stuff kids can digest and maybe actually learn from it. Or that other show, where there's mini people who work with shapes. That's good because it teaches kids about shapes and patterns. Now take say Breadwinners. Absolute garbage, just throw anything at the screen and have horribly animated flash and is all RAWR XD SO RANDOMZ! That shit is trash and kids shouldn't be subjected to watch crap like that. It's an insult to their intelligence.

Now, I'm not beyond playfully ribbing those good little kid cartoons. Like say, Peep in the Big Wide World. I actually, in a weird way enjoy that show. It's cute, has bright colors, and yeah there are lessons and stuff. But the characters sometimes have strange motivations or they just do something stupid and it's fun to make fun of it. Because a kid would find it funny or the problem investing, but to older people it's just hilarious how stupid the characters themselves are. And making fun of that or the show for that isn't hating. It's just... Well, making fun of it. And that's okay.

Hating would be like, actively saying its a bad show without watching it or at least reading up on it and just saying its bad. And if kids in your school say some shows are stupid or dumb, maybe instead of assuming they're doing it to be cool ask /why/ they think it's dumb and stupid and be open to hearing their opinions. They may have a valid point. And even if it is, and you don't care, you can still enjoy your show. No ones telling you not to. They're just expressing their opinion. Which they have every right to do.
Title: Re: Who else has the feeling of stuff getting disliked for no good reason?
Post by: DEEcat98 on 2017-02-28 14:29:40
The last part you said is true. Also after reading what you said, even if they want to distract kids, at least there are some morals in them.
Title: Re: Who else has the feeling of stuff getting disliked for no good reason?
Post by: Death Blossom on 2017-02-28 14:31:45
No. That's EXACTLY my point. Do you even? I'm saying when it's ALL they do and have NO SUBSTANCE besides colorful vomit. That's my point. There's nothing besides distracting kids.
Title: Re: Who else has the feeling of stuff getting disliked for no good reason?
Post by: DEEcat98 on 2017-02-28 14:38:24
Isn't there more than just distracting kids? They have been said that they are shows that help kids learn and grow up. (except the kid shows on normal nick because they are not made to teach lessons)
Title: Re: Who else has the feeling of stuff getting disliked for no good reason?
Post by: Death Blossom on 2017-02-28 15:00:27
That's the point. yes there is more to shows than just distracting kids. It's why shows are hated. Because they DON'T try more than just distracting kids. They do the bare minimum they can.
Title: Re: Who else has the feeling of stuff getting disliked for no good reason?
Post by: DEEcat98 on 2017-02-28 15:07:42
Ok then. Also I made this topic because of how it can be true that people having no reason of disliking something especially when it is something that everyone likes is not much of a reason.
Title: Re: Who else has the feeling of stuff getting disliked for no good reason?
Post by: MasterXtreme on 2017-02-28 18:23:58
But cant we all agree that many kids shows ARE terrible? They are so dumbed down they insult children's minds. They make them so bad because they think they dont need to try because they are kids shows. What good is the Teletubies? What about others? An example of a show that tried for kids was Bob The Builder. They had unique animation and had plots! There is an obvious difference.

Case and point.
Title: I do feel my work gets dissed by critics for no good reason-- but n-e-wai...
Post by: NostradamusTheSeer on 2017-03-02 08:02:34
Part of it is the government educational programming mandate.  Once broadcasters realized they could slap an  E/I  bug on any old show, even if it's fifteen to twenty years old and woefully out-of-date information-wise, and meet the bare requirement to keep their license, it killed any creative incentive.
Title: Re: Who else has the feeling of stuff getting disliked for no good reason?
Post by: DEEcat98 on 2017-03-03 15:59:26
But cant we all agree that many kids shows ARE terrible? They are so dumbed down they insult children's minds. They make them so bad because they think they dont need to try because they are kids shows. What good is the Teletubies? What about others? An example of a show that tried for kids was Bob The Builder. They had unique animation and had plots! There is an obvious difference.

But we have good ones.
Title: Re: Who else has the feeling of stuff getting disliked for no good reason?
Post by: RainySunshine on 2017-03-03 16:50:56
But cant we all agree that many kids shows ARE terrible? They are so dumbed down they insult children's minds. They make them so bad because they think they dont need to try because they are kids shows. What good is the Teletubies? What about others? An example of a show that tried for kids was Bob The Builder. They had unique animation and had plots! There is an obvious difference.

But we have good ones.

What does that mean?  What are you referring too?  Ha!  Examples? 
Title: Re: Who else has the feeling of stuff getting disliked for no good reason?
Post by: Death Blossom on 2017-03-03 17:10:55
MLP.
Title: Re: Who else has the feeling of stuff getting disliked for no good reason?
Post by: DEEcat98 on 2017-03-03 20:38:40
Many old school kid shows are good ones too.
Title: Who else has the feeling of stuff getting disliked for no good reason?
Post by: NostradamusTheSeer on 2017-03-03 21:07:18
We have more channels now than our parents did, not even counting sites like YouTube and Netflix that stream online-only goodies... but in the immortal words of Mad Max (https://youtu.be/Dj6Tq3GZfrA?t=1), the turd ratio ain't gone down none.  My dial (metaphorical, these days, as these new sets have buttons) seldom strays past the classic TV station these days, where I watch a lot of old movies, classic sitcoms, and the original Odd Couple, MacGyver, and Ironside, not some modern reboot that got a tech update and a race lift to make it palatable for the millennial morons who don't care anyway and just get tired of hearing their grandparents almost blow a gasket over Sherlock's assistant Watson being Asian and a chick.  And, of course, commercials for the latest boner pill, followed by the law firm you need to call to file a suit when that boner pill from the last ad damn near kills you when you try using it on that cocktail waitress at B.J. Gold's who isn't much older than that aforementioned millennial brat who.  along with her deadbeat disenfranchised unemployed thrice-divorced Gen-X mom, is currently living rent-free there in your two-bedroom split-level with you.

Anyway, yeah, old stuff is way the hell better.
Title: Re: Who else has the feeling of stuff getting disliked for no good reason?
Post by: DEEcat98 on 2017-03-11 18:41:16
Also sometimes I hear that people just leave fandoms just because of how people in fandoms obsess oversomething that has something to so with the movie/show. I kinda think they just leave it just because of too many people liking it and that isn't really much of a reason to leave a fandom.
Title: Re: Who else has the feeling of stuff getting disliked for no good reason?
Post by: Death Blossom on 2017-03-11 19:47:11
Nooooo, they leave because the fandom is being retarded and they don't want a part of it anymore and don't want to be associated with such cancer. It's what prevents some people from giving Steven Universe a try. Because the fandom is the worst form of cancer ever.
Title: Re: Who else has the feeling of stuff getting disliked for no good reason?
Post by: Silverwing on 2017-03-11 20:40:53
*Doctor walks in.*

Sorry... you have Steven Universe.

*Patient sobs uncontrollably*

Title: Re: Who else has the feeling of stuff getting disliked for no good reason?
Post by: Death Blossom on 2017-03-11 20:46:59
Basically lol
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Post by: Silverwing on 2017-03-11 20:52:23
And honestly, it is a shame that certain fandoms have this happen to them.  It truly negates or puts a sour thought on shows that could be good, but people don't want to give them a chance because of the horrible fandoms.
Title: Re: Who else has the feeling of stuff getting disliked for no good reason?
Post by: Death Blossom on 2017-03-11 20:56:34
And then there's just the fandom turns sour.
See the thing is Dee. Even if they leave the fandom, they'll still watch the show.
Just refuse to be part of the fandom anymore. Happened with my friend and SU. He used to do fanart and stuff but once the fans on tumblr nearly pushed a girl to suicide, he quit, stopped doing art and refuses to be part of the fandom. He just watches the show.
Title: Re: Who else has the feeling of stuff getting disliked for no good reason?
Post by: Anyponedrawn on 2017-03-11 20:56:50
People leave fandom because they lost interest in it... and were probably "Fair weather fans."  NOT TRUE FANS. ;) 
Title: Re: Who else has the feeling of stuff getting disliked for no good reason?
Post by: Silverwing on 2017-03-11 20:57:59
Before I joined the MLP fandom for example, I just kept to myself... and really, I am still not part of the fandom, I am part of the sub fandom, which is PSF, and out sub culture. 
Title: Re: Who else has the feeling of stuff getting disliked for no good reason?
Post by: Death Blossom on 2017-03-11 20:58:59
You're not a true fan if you watch the show.
Not a true fan if you watch all the episodes.
Not a true fan if you draw art or write fanfics.
Not a true fan if you buy the merch.

You're only a true fan if you're an electrical device that is meant to cool you off
Title: Re: Who else has the feeling of stuff getting disliked for no good reason?
Post by: Silverwing on 2017-03-11 21:00:13
*Rimshot.*
Title: Re: Who else has the feeling of stuff getting disliked for no good reason?
Post by: 1234 on 2017-03-11 21:00:13
D'OHHH, LP! DX

That was funny tho. :P
Title: Re: Who else has the feeling of stuff getting disliked for no good reason?
Post by: Rainberry on 2017-03-11 21:01:33
And honestly, it is a shame that certain fandoms have this happen to them.  It truly negates or puts a sour thought on shows that could be good, but people don't want to give them a chance because of the horrible fandoms.

It sucks!  Some shows deserve so much more attention, but they either don't have a fanbase, or their fanbase is super dumb.

I am thinking of the TUFF Puppy Crowd a few years ago... or Danny Phantom stuff.
Title: Re: Who else has the feeling of stuff getting disliked for no good reason?
Post by: Anyponedrawn on 2017-03-11 21:01:55
Sonic fans... like why?
Title: Re: Who else has the feeling of stuff getting disliked for no good reason?
Post by: Death Blossom on 2017-03-11 21:10:20
Oh come on. Sonic in and of itself is pretty cringey. You can't not expect it to have a bad fandom.
Title: Re: Who else has the feeling of stuff getting disliked for no good reason?
Post by: Silverwing on 2017-03-11 21:16:01
Why does it have such a big fandom?  All the shows stunk... and the games... well.... like... what made people latch on to that and be fans?  Is it like the first stepping stone for children becoming parts of fandoms, until they move up to other shows someday? 
Title: Re: Who else has the feeling of stuff getting disliked for no good reason?
Post by: Anyponedrawn on 2017-03-11 21:16:16
It might be a stepping stone fandom?
Title: Re: Who else has the feeling of stuff getting disliked for no good reason?
Post by: Death Blossom on 2017-03-11 21:19:10
Not really, stepping stone fandom that is.
It's just, it was a game young kids enjoy because it's a simple game. Can be difficult but simple. Something they can easily latch on to. The reason the fandom is so cancer is because usually young adolescent people play it. And they're all going through their "oh I'm so cool" edgy af phase.
Title: Re: Who else has the feeling of stuff getting disliked for no good reason?
Post by: Silverwing on 2017-03-11 21:20:53
Sort of like young Pokemon fans in the 90s.  Okay, I got it. 
Title: Re: Who else has the feeling of stuff getting disliked for no good reason?
Post by: DEEcat98 on 2017-03-12 11:17:55
For me, as I am now more into The Loud House fandom than the Total Drama Fandom. I am still part of the Total Drama fandom because I want the fandom to stay alive. That is pretty much me when I have to stay in most fandoms to keep them alive and since I still like the media that the fandom is about.
Title: Re: Who else has the feeling of stuff getting disliked for no good reason?
Post by: Death Blossom on 2017-03-12 11:49:20
SNRK!
I doubt one person can help keep an old ass fandom like that alive.
Title: Re: Who else has the feeling of stuff getting disliked for no good reason?
Post by: DEEcat98 on 2017-03-12 14:07:35
It can at least be more than one.
Title: Re: Who else has the feeling of stuff getting disliked for no good reason?
Post by: Anyponedrawn on 2017-03-12 21:08:25
Old show fandoms are still out there, looks at Kim Possible... and.... well... thats it. :D 

J/k.  You still got a "old Nicktoons" fandom plus other stuff, "old CN" etc.
Title: Re: Who else has the feeling of stuff getting disliked for no good reason?
Post by: DEEcat98 on 2017-03-29 17:26:40
How come no one agrees with me on this topic?
Title: Re: Who else has the feeling of stuff getting disliked for no good reason?
Post by: MasterXtreme on 2017-03-29 20:39:02
Because we don't agree with you.
Title: Re: Who else has the feeling of stuff getting disliked for no good reason?
Post by: Silverwing on 2017-03-29 20:40:15
How come no one agrees with me on this topic?
It is because we have differing opinions than you.
Title: Re: Who else has the feeling of stuff getting disliked for no good reason?
Post by: DEEcat98 on 2017-03-29 20:55:55
I know but can at least one sane person agree with me about not listening to people who act hip and cool that you see from Middle School and High School?
Title: Re: Who else has the feeling of stuff getting disliked for no good reason?
Post by: 1234 on 2017-03-29 21:09:38
I know but can at least one sane person agree with me about not listening to people who act hip and cool that you see from Middle School and High School?
Not "one sane person". Just "one person". If someone doesn't agree with your opinion, that doesn't make them any less sane. Saying "one sane person" is a bit insulting towards those who don't agree with you.

To answer your question, I guess there are times you shouldn't listen to the opinions these people seemingly have... But I'd say it depends on the situation.
Title: Re: Who else has the feeling of stuff getting disliked for no good reason?
Post by: Umbreon on 2017-03-30 00:06:28
I believe everyone is entitled to there own opinions on the subject no one has to agree.
Title: Re: Who else has the feeling of stuff getting disliked for no good reason?
Post by: Darrin on 2017-03-30 17:01:43
Who else has the feeling of stuff getting disliked for no good reason?

To answer that question directly, people have agreed with you on that.  Yes.  There are things people dislike for no good reason.

So what else do you want us to agree about?  From the other content I've read that isn't the first initial question, people disagree with you on it. ;D
Title: Re: Who else has the feeling of stuff getting disliked for no good reason?
Post by: DEEcat98 on 2017-04-01 07:56:24
Yes, glad at least one person agrees with me here.
Title: Re: Who else has the feeling of stuff getting disliked for no good reason?
Post by: Darrin on 2017-04-01 13:08:39
Many people agreed with your first initial statement.  But then you went off and made more statements people disagreed with.
Title: Re: Who else has the feeling of stuff getting disliked for no good reason?
Post by: Anyponedrawn on 2017-04-01 13:08:54
Many people agreed with your first initial statement.  But then you went off and made more statements people disagreed with.

This! ^ 
Title: Re: Who else has the feeling of stuff getting disliked for no good reason?
Post by: DEEcat98 on 2017-05-06 21:43:45
Many people agreed with your first initial statement.  But then you went off and made more statements people disagreed with.

By first initial statement were you meaning me talking about people who have some stuff they just only dislike just because it's popular and nothing else but which many people did agree with me on, yet but everything else I said like people having no reason to dislike a kid show other than it's for kids which here are people disagreed with me on?
Title: Re: Who else has the feeling of stuff getting disliked for no good reason?
Post by: Anyponedrawn on 2017-05-06 21:59:49
Huh?  ;D
Title: Re: Who else has the feeling of stuff getting disliked for no good reason?
Post by: Death Blossom on 2017-05-12 20:32:56
That's all one sentence. What?
Title: Re: Who else has the feeling of stuff getting disliked for no good reason?
Post by: DEEcat98 on 2017-05-13 13:59:25
I was meaning what Darrin meant by first initial statement.
Title: Re: Who else has the feeling of stuff getting disliked for no good reason?
Post by: DEEcat98 on 2017-05-15 19:36:55
Also here is something that I think gets despised for no reason, any modern reboots and spin offs and they are mostly only despised because nostalgia people said that it ruined their childhood and nothing else.
Title: Re: Who else has the feeling of stuff getting disliked for no good reason?
Post by: MasterXtreme on 2017-05-15 19:51:31
That is true to a degree.  Many reboots really are not as good.  But if people can keep the nostalgia blinders off and take the new shows as being completely separate... some can be okay for being completely different.

But then that begs the question... why not just make a whole new show if you plan to change the original characters.  I guess the writers plan on piggy backing on the old shows notoriety instead of having to build up their own with a new show.
Title: Re: Who else has the feeling of stuff getting disliked for no good reason?
Post by: DEEcat98 on 2017-05-15 19:53:35
All of this is true.
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Post by: MasterXtreme on 2017-05-15 19:57:47
Indeed.  I guess a success story of an old show that was "rebooted" with totally new characters and what not was MLP:FiM.  No one complained at that.

But then you got other reboots people complain about like Teen Titans Go! from Teen Titans. 
Title: Reboot laced
Post by: NostradamusTheSeer on 2017-05-16 02:13:31
I'm hearing talk of a Muppet Babies reboot.  I wonder if we'll be seeing some new babies come to the nursery. I always wanted to see a Baby Zoot or Baby Swedish Chef.  I also had an idea for a couple of hipper "urban" millennial versions of Statler and Waldorf (http://scratchpad.wikia.com/wiki/Minor_or_one-shot_characters_in_Belch_Dimension_Comics#Adler_and_Walledoff).
Title: Re: Who else has the feeling of stuff getting disliked for no good reason?
Post by: Grapefoot on 2017-05-16 13:00:20
I hope they dont make a reboot. There is that new Duckales reboot coming too.
Title: Re: Who else has the feeling of stuff getting disliked for no good reason?
Post by: Ari-Dynamic on 2017-05-16 13:12:10
The new DuckTales imo looks great, and this is coming from someone who liked the cartoon but liked the original Scrooge and co. Carl Banks comics most later on in life (of which it appears to be based on to a degree). ^^ Besides, with a former Dr. Who lead actor in the cast, it looks like the makings of a great revival. This is something they should've done with the 7D.

I don't think I can handle another Muppet Babies, and imo, I don't think the public really asked for another 'babified IP' genre. I didn't get it in the 90's with Baby Flintstones, Baby Tom & Jerry, Baby Ghostbusters, etc. and I don't think I'd get it now, either. XD
Title: Re: Who else has the feeling of stuff getting disliked for no good reason?
Post by: Grapefoot on 2017-05-16 13:13:54
''Babified'' cartoons where never popular. Not sure why they we being made in the 80s and 90s.
Title: Re: Who else has the feeling of stuff getting disliked for no good reason?
Post by: Ari-Dynamic on 2017-05-16 13:17:53
I'd rather have another season of The Muppets than a baby-anything based cartoon. :D

or a new season of... anything, honestly. XD
Title: Re: Who else has the feeling of stuff getting disliked for no good reason?
Post by: Ari-Dynamic on 2017-05-16 13:20:02
Old show fandoms are still out there, looks at Kim Possible... and.... well... thats it. :D 

The Darkwing Duck universe is alive and well with a fandom that's somewhat large. :D The comicbook revival was a hit with fans (save for one story, due to behind-the-scenes drama). Check out The Old Haunt and it's sister site Duckverse, lol
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Post by: Anyponedrawn on 2017-05-16 19:50:47
Old show fandoms are still out there, looks at Kim Possible... and.... well... thats it. :D 

The Darkwing Duck universe is alive and well with a fandom that's somewhat large. :D The comicbook revival was a hit with fans (save for one story, due to behind-the-scenes drama). Check out The Old Haunt and it's sister site Duckverse, lol

I had no idea!  I can't believe that fandom is still around.  I like to wonder what old show's fandoms would have been like had they had the robust internet we have today?
Title: Re: Who else has the feeling of stuff getting disliked for no good reason?
Post by: DEEcat98 on 2017-05-19 17:32:40
Well at least there is another statement I said that most people agreed on.
Title: Re: Who else has the feeling of stuff getting disliked for no good reason?
Post by: Ari-Dynamic on 2017-05-19 17:42:44
Old show fandoms are still out there, looks at Kim Possible... and.... well... thats it. :D 

The Darkwing Duck universe is alive and well with a fandom that's somewhat large. :D The comicbook revival was a hit with fans (save for one story, due to behind-the-scenes drama). Check out The Old Haunt and it's sister site Duckverse, lol

I had no idea!  I can't believe that fandom is still around.  I like to wonder what old show's fandoms would have been like had they had the robust internet we have today?

Most of the Disney Afternoon cartoons have fairly large fanbases. ^^ There's the Rescue Rangers HQ as well. I saw a Gargoyles fanbase retrospective years ago on one of the DVD releases; it's kinda getting a little smaller, but still proactive.

But yeah, a somewhat sizeable portion of my dA watch/follow list over the years were huge DWD and DuckTales fans with duck OC's and the like.
Title: Re: Who else has the feeling of stuff getting disliked for no good reason?
Post by: DEEcat98 on 2017-05-29 22:20:57
Also I did made up a term for people who just only despise a popular thing just because it's popular called popularphioba.
Title: Re: Who else has the feeling of stuff getting disliked for no good reason?
Post by: Darrin on 2017-05-29 22:28:00
Popularphobia.
Title: Re: Who else has the feeling of stuff getting disliked for no good reason?
Post by: DEEcat98 on 2017-05-29 22:28:33
Yes.
Title: Re: Who else has the feeling of stuff getting disliked for no good reason?
Post by: Darrin on 2017-05-29 22:29:15
I bet we could try to come up with something more clever then that.  It's good, but I challenge you and others to come up with something even better. :)

Title: Re: Who else has the feeling of stuff getting disliked for no good reason?
Post by: Death Blossom on 2017-06-07 14:27:33
That just sounds weird. I'm sure there's probably already a word for it.

It also wouldn't make sense in context, as phobia is an unexplainable and illogical fear of something.
Title: Re: Who else has the feeling of stuff getting disliked for no good reason?
Post by: NostradamusTheSeer on 2017-06-09 19:14:42
I don't think it's so much a phobia as just being a dick.  It's like when folks talk about wearing an item of clothing "ironically"... it's a pair of pants, not an O. Henry novel. That's got to be a rich people thing.   I swear since Alanis Morissette came out with that song, even a plate of scrambled eggs can be called ironic.
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Post by: Anyponedrawn on 2017-06-09 20:44:40
Negativus popularis.  That gets my vote for the word.
Title: Re: Who else has the feeling of stuff getting disliked for no good reason?
Post by: DEEcat98 on 2017-06-18 20:21:28
Oh and people who despise kid stuff for no reason other than it's for kids will be called preschoolphobia.
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Post by: Ari-Dynamic on 2017-06-18 20:55:53
lol, are we just making up words now? :P
Title: Re: Who else has the feeling of stuff getting disliked for no good reason?
Post by: MasterXtreme on 2017-06-18 21:01:04
Seems like it. 
Title: Re: Who else has the feeling of stuff getting disliked for no good reason?
Post by: Ari-Dynamic on 2017-07-15 12:28:08
I kinda had an experience with this today while defending a friend's artwork, though it was about Undertale as opposed to a cartoons, movies, whathaveyou. Some furry went off on a tangent complaining about the game and the artwork-- which was inoffensive and innocent.

There was really no reason for the dude to complain about a two-year old game. There was also not really any reason to complain about it's fan art for that matter; the fact of the matter is - if it's a brand new thing and it's HUGE, it's going to get fan art from all kinds of people. It doesn't matter if it's good or not, it doesn't matter if the art is good or not, people are going to feel proud to have contributed something to share based on something they like. You either have to accept this fact and get over it, or find another closed-minded bubble to speak about it.

What bothers me are users online on places like furaffinity and dA who get all trigger-happy feeling they need to complain, "Ungh, another (x) fan art?" Like, what, were they that dimwitted to not expect it? Were they that dimwitted to not know how a search function works that they will likely find some?

What I'm getting at, really, is that yeah... unfortunately such people exist. More often than not, their reason to dislike something is silly and naive, at best.

And no, it wasn't a troll. Just another one of those "I'm disgruntled because (x) series is all over the place!" people.
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Post by: Silverwing on 2017-07-15 13:31:24
^ I know what you mean.  They just don't appreciate that someone took the time to do something, whether they like it or not.