Nickelodeon Discussion

[Darrin]

It was actually pretty good.  A good short.  Action and explosions and guns!

[Anyponedrawn]

These should probably both come as NO surprise to anyone.

Nickelodeon Cuts Ties With Creator Dan Schneider After Alleged Abusive Behavior.

‘Ren & Stimpy’ Creator John Kricfalusi Accused of Preying on and Sexually Abusing Underage Girls, Possessing Child Porn.

[Soda]

Not surprised on either.

[NostradamusTheSeer]

Yes, but come on.  Some of these rumors are just plain out there and weird. Like the one that claims Dan Schneider used to clip Amanda Bynes' toenails, grind them into a fine powder, and snort them like China White.  What the hell...? Is he all, like,  (deep redneck voice) "I hope you ain't wash'd'ded yer feet yet today, baby."  (normal tone)  I read that, and I'm all, "Bleah."

Besides, you have to understand-- it was the nineties. Things were different then.  Life was better.  Women were hotter, a lot more wild, back in those days.   

[Darrin]

There's a lot out there though that is video evidence too of what Dan did.  He had a foot fetish and it continually become a larger and larger presence on his tv shows.  He would hang out in the teen's locker rooms with the girls.  Some claim he would fuel his foot fetish wants with them in his office.  He wasn't a good man.  From Amanda Bynes to Amanda Cosgrove and Jeanette McCurdy... he did some strange things.  He recently tackled Jeanette while filming it and dragged her by the foot around the room.

[MasterXtreme]

Lets not forget 'Loud House' creator Chris Savino was fired for Sexual Harassment Allegation.  Either Nickelodeon is ripe with sicko's... or the world is viewing what used to be "okay treatment" and turning it into unsavory treatment.  It could be actions in the past that was considered normal men behavior is now sparking the minds of this new generation of women who view it as dirty male behavior.  I am not saying how men act is right in most of theses cases, they should keep to themselves and not treat women as mere "toy-things," but there may also be some overreaction by the females involves when some accusations are simply them standing behind them during a meeting...

So.  Here we are, two (Dan and Chris) big time Nickelodeon names being fired in a short span of time.

[Wolfwood]

Shame... but this explains some of John K's... life.  Mainly about his critique on stuff.

And this is a current video on John K and the recent allegations.

[Wolfwood]

So I may have come off as harsh.  What saddens me is that this guy, John K. was a integral part at starting the 90s cartoon revival with actual hand animated stuff!  It wasn't this cheap Hanna-Barbara crap.  His was frame by frame drawn.  So it sucks to see someone who actually is good and knows some of what they are talking about, be such a bigoted jerk.  It stinks these allegations are out there.

As for Dan Schneider, what a sickening pig if the allegations are true as well.  He used his "position of power" to take advantage of kids.  I don't know whats worse... him doing all this, or Nickelodeon knowing for all these years and not doing anything about it as their pockets got lined in cash. 

[NostradamusTheSeer]

Schneider's big breakout vehicle was Head of the Class, which starred Howard Hesseman and (later) Billy Connelly as a teacher/mentor to a rowdy, diverse group of gifted high-school students.  I'm old enough to remember that show; that's scary.  For those who aren't, he was the fat guy (cue clips from Rocko's Modern Life here).  I wonder if any of Schneider's co-stars knew about his proclivities even then?

As long as he was able to produce a coherent product and his work remained in demand, his superiors were willing to overlook any allegations of grabass in the workplace. However, repeated missed deadlines and continuing to butt heads with the network over content made him toxic, and he was let go midway to season two.  Fans will agree that the Ren & Stimpy cartoons made after Kricfalusi's departure were uneven in quality at best, and some utterly unwatchable.  However, shortly after these allegations came to light, John K. played the mental illness card, admitting to "self-medicating" with alcohol for years to deal with his issues.  I'm not sure how I should take that.  Is it a cheap cop-out by John K. to justify his poor behavior, or a condemnation of an uncaring, broken system who should have tried to get him the help he needed?

Looking back, maybe we should have all have seen the signs years ago, telegraphed within his work itself.

[MasterXtreme]

Of course the doctor would be a "pig."  Fits that cartoon and him.  His content was always questionable.  Look at some of the tangents he made Red say on cartoons.  I can only imagine the female voice actor having to say the lines in the pilot posted above.  John K. wrote this whole mess.  Just watching it, it is fully made to feed his fantasies. 

Back in the 2010's, John K. took peoples money through a crowdfunding project.  He got the money he wanted, but he never produced the cartoon he promised.

[NostradamusTheSeer]

I think the pig doctor also played a cop (pun intended, I Believe) in the episode "Stimpy's Pregnant"... which is about Stimpy's impacted bowel treated as a full-term pregnancy and the "child" being the product of the removal of said blockage.

[Wolfwood]

As much as I want to bash on the guy now.... I actually like his cartoons.  

I also liked Schnieder's "Drake and Josh" show as well as some of "ICarly."

[NostradamusTheSeer]

Oh, no doubt the man is a genius.   Kricfalusi s cartoons has been a huge influence on my work, just as Bob Clampett was for John K. himself (though his family didn't quite dig what he did to Beany and Cecil)). His biggest problem is that he can be wholly undiciplined. A lot of reviews of the Ren and Stimpy Adult Party Cartoon, on which John K. had carte blanche, seem to be negative, and even those who like it point to its poor execution, unfocused and oft meandering gags, and excessive script padding as its flaws.  I think the biggest problem is not having longtime collaborator Bob Camp, whose tight writing served to reign in Kricfalusi's sprawling vision, on board.  Sadly, the fallout between the two giants and subsequent feud is one of legend.

[Grapefoot]

Another animated test show from Nickelodeon.

It's called, Harpy Gee.

[NostradamusTheSeer]

It looks like a very toned-down, treacly version of Adventure Time for the younger set, complete with a pro-social female protagonist and her magical pet.


"I'm always confused when people say how much they miss Invader Zim because the show never stopped running in my head, and then I remember everyone else isn't in my head".   --Jhonen Vasquez, creator

First Hey, Arnold!, then Rocko's Modern Life ... now another old Nickelodeon favorite is slated for a  comeback. Jhonen Vasquez's Invader Zim, featuring a gung-ho but wildly erratic alien invader and the large-headed young conspiracy theorist looking to expose his fiendish machinations, returns to the airwaves in his own made-for-TV movie. Like Ren & Stimpy a decade previous, the show-- made by a young artist known for such bizarre underground comics as Squee and Johnny the Homicidal Maniac--may have been simply too hip for the room in 2001, hence he series lasted barely two seasons in its initial run.  However, vindicated by history and given its newfound popularity, the show has since become a cult classic.  The newly-announced movie-- on which few details have been released-- might even be a trial balloon for a series revival.  Even if it doesn't come to much, there's still the IZ comic-book series, which has even used one of the scrapped episode ideas from the parent show (is. #8).