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The Lounge => Gaming Board => Topic started by: Grapefoot on 2019-06-09 21:35:36
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Google has revealed Stadia. This is possibly the future of gaming and will definitely shake up the console and PC gaming world. Google Stadia, is an upcoming streaming service that lets you play games without the need for a dedicated console or gaming PC.
Stadia Info (https://www.gamesradar.com/google-stadia-release-date-price-games-controller/).
A Stadia Pro subscription gets you up to 4K Resolution, 5.1 surround sound, free games and exclusive discounts for $9.99 a month.
A free Stadia Base subscription will let you buy games as and when you want them, but that service won't be available until next year.
In the simplest terms, Google Stadia lets you play modern games on just about any screen you own, with Google's servers handling all the processing power and beaming them to you via the cloud. There are no downloads or installations to worry about; if your device can run a Google Chrome browser, it can handle Google Stadia. When Google Stadia launches, it'll support play on your TV (using a Chromecast Ultra), desktop computer, laptop, tablet, and smartphones starting with the Pixel 3 and 3a models.
If your internet can handle it - and you pony up for the high-end subscription - Google Stadia can stream gameplay at 4K resolution with HDR and 5.1 surround sound at 60fps, all via an internet connection with at least 35 Mbps speed. And even if your internet isn't as fast as that, Google Stadia supports a wide range of internet speeds at the cost of some graphical quality (with 10 Mbps being the recommended minimum speed).
The earliest you can access Google Stadia is November 2019, with no exact date given just yet - but you'll need to buy into the Stadia Founder's Edition (which we'll get to the pricing of in just a second). Google Stadia will be available in the US, Canada, UK, Ireland, France, Germany, Italy, Spain, Netherlands, Belgium, Denmark, Sweden, Norway, and Finland regions first, with more territories being added in 2020 and beyond. If you don't want to buy a Stadia Founder's Edition, the Stadia Base option will be available sometime in 2020.
Google Stadia is available at different price points, but to play it as early as possible, you'll need to buy the Stadia Founder's Edition for $129 / £119 with the option to pre-order it now. In the Founder's Edition bundle, you'll get a Chromecast Ultra for playing on your TV, a limited-edition Night Blue Stadia Controller, a three-month Stadia Pro subscription, a buddy pass that lets you gift three months of Stadia Pro to a friend, and first dibs on your Stadia Name (so you can snag your preferred handle).
A Stadia Pro subscription, priced at $9.99 / £8.99 per month, is required to stream games at 4K/60fps/HDR with 5.1 surround sound, and grants access to a growing library of games that are free for as long as your Stadia Pro subscription is active. You'll also give discounts on games for purchase, and for a limited time, Stadia Pro will include the complete Destiny 2 experience, with the base game, all previous add-ons, the new Shadowkeep expansion, and the annual pass, with the option to transfer your Guardian from other platforms (PC and Xbox are currently confirmed, while Sony is still dragging its feet on approval).
If you don't want to pay for a Stadia Pro subscription, you can still use Stadia Base, coming in 2020. It's capped at 1080p/60fps with stereo sound, and games must be purchased individually, though they're yours to keep once you buy them. You can play in a Chrome browser on any computer or on your Pixel 3 or 3a phone, with plans to expand Google Stadia to other mobile phones in the future.
The dedicated Stadia controller isn't required to play on Google Stadia, which supports a wide range of controllers as well as a mouse and keyboard setup. But if you want to play Stadia the way Google intended, you can buy a Google Stadia controller for $69 / £59 each. Colors currently on offer include Clearly White, Just Black, Wasabi (the clear front-runner at the moment), or the Night Blue colorway included exclusively in the Founder's Edition.
Stadia controllers use your WiFi to connect directly with whatever game is being streamed from Google's servers, with the classic dual joystick, D-pad, face button, and shoulder button layout most closely resembling the DualShock 4 controller. It also has two additional buttons which let you easily capture footage or activate the Google Assistant. Once you've got a supported controller and a screen to play on, you're all set to use Google Stadia - no console or additional wires required.
Lastly you may wonder what kind of games does the Stadia play? Currently there are many and Google will reveal more in the coming months.
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Seems we have a very heavily internet reliant program being built here. Given Google's poor track record of privacy and what they do with people's data, there's no telling what kind of ethical, legal, and privacy issues the new Stadia service will alarm. There is no telling if they will be a huge success or a massive failure, or somewhere in-between. One thing for certain is this is the start of something new and it will shake up the gaming industry... but I think it will shake up more than that. What stops them at gaming if this same kind of platform can be done with games, movies, and other things we consume? Should be interesting to see what happens.
So what do you think about the Stadia and do you want to sign on to the service or not? This topic will also serve as the main topic for all things Stadia in the future.
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*Sits back and watches*
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The new avengers game will be on stadia also I hate streaming its not tge future of gaming for me I'm getting a ps5
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It is an interesting proposition but for the people who don't have anything but stellar internet, I don't think so. I can really see this being a major flop initially but after some years of work, it could work out.
Maybe I am old fashioned, but I love opening my physical box and seeing my physical manual with cool other niceties in it.
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I have zero interest for streaming a game. You never actually own it and if there is ever any form of internet issues, you can't play it! Places like Australia or New Zealand which have notably some of the worst internet connections in the world will never be able to play this service. And who wants to be playing a single player story more and have internet lag?
No thanks. This service is not for me.
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Streaming games isn't of any interest to me. But I am not stupid and realize I should watch this. The gaming world is changing and how people get their games and other media is changing.
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He pretty much says everything that I think about Google Stadia.
Thank God for Jim!
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Is any one getting this I'm definitely not because streaming isn't for me to put it nicely but I wanna hear someone that's into streaming games talk about it i get the feeling this is going to be popular with kids
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Heck no. I want to own my games. I don't want to have to rely on some server to stream it for me nor do I want to have to rely on an internet connection/wifi. I want the game on my system or in my hand. Not someplace else.
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Couldn't agree more
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No way. I am curious as to how they will do... but for the most part, people who play games want to own their games and not rely on a service.
What makes this good though is for people who can't afford a high end computer or console and they will still be able to play some of these games. They will just be at the mercy of the internet working and all the data Google is stealing from them.
But there is no way I am planning on supporting Google and the Stadia. In the past few years, I have gotten rid of everything Google related, all accounts, etc. The only Google thing I use is their Google Maps and gmail for junk email.
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I have playstation now becouse I'm to lazy to plug in my old consoles and then find the game and play it on a crappy TV so I like that but that's it
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To each their own... I have all my old games and consoles saved. No extra money being spent. Just plug in a cord and start it up. :)
I have really been trying to keep my old systems in good condition to run. So far none have died. :)
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To each their own... I have all my old games and consoles saved. No extra money being spent. Just plug in a cord and start it up. :)
I have really been trying to keep my old systems in good condition to run. So far none have died. :)
I hate streaming games to but I don't own a old TV to play my games own I need to get a converter but playstation now is good I like it
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I really don't get this thing I watched there stadia connect and there getting games that will be on ps4 a console everyone owns you would thing they would try and get exclusives the only reason anyone would even try it
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I really don't get this thing I watched there stadia connect and there getting games that will be on ps4 a console everyone owns you would thing they would try and get exclusives the only reason anyone would even try it
Like it or not, the Stadia is a brilliant idea that many have wanted to do up till this point. It gets rid of consoles and doesn't require people to choose and be loyal to one console or waste money buying all of them. Instead all they need is a tv and a Stadia account. For people who don't care about brand loyalty or don't want to spend much money, they can play any game, across any platform.
It's biggest draw back will be requiring an internet connection and good wifi to stream the games steadily.
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Google Stadia this month...
Here are more things learned from the recent AMA convention... today.
Article (https://www.androidauthority.com/google-stadia-reddit-ama-1054041/)
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According to this guy, it's already off to a weird start.
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The Stadia will struggle for sure... possibly fail. It will be that first stepping stone that will be used as an example to build off of for future generations of products similar to this. People will learn from it.
As it is now, Stadia is well overpriced. You have for a console, you pay for a service, and you get old games and nothing new. It's not a new game console... it's a service. It has been marketed poorly and wrongly. It isn't going to compete with the Playstation's and Xbox's of the world. Sony and Microsoft have their own subscription services that are more affordable and offer more value.
So when ti comes to the Stadia and it's future, it will come down to what is the value of this product and service? That's what it will be.
Whether the system fails or flounders around a few years, it will be learned from, improved upon, and be made better in the future whether Google comes back with a new era of the Stadia idea, or another company makes something better.
As it is now, with Sony and Microsoft about to release their next generation consoles early next year, the Stadia will be forgotten. There is no draw to the Stadia. No unique or third party games just for the Stadia... it's just.... an overpriced subscription service.
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The Stadia will struggle for sure... possibly fail. It will be that first stepping stone that will be used as an example to build off of for future generations of products similar to this. People will learn from it.
As it is now, Stadia is well overpriced. You have for a console, you pay for a service, and you get old games and nothing new. It's not a new game console... it's a service. It has been marketed poorly and wrongly. It isn't going to compete with the Playstation's and Xbox's of the world. Sony and Microsoft have their own subscription services that are more affordable and offer more value.
So when ti comes to the Stadia and it's future, it will come down to what is the value of this product and service? That's what it will be.
Whether the system fails or flounders around a few years, it will be learned from, improved upon, and be made better in the future whether Google comes back with a new era of the Stadia idea, or another company makes something better.
As it is now, with Sony and Microsoft about to release their next generation consoles early next year, the Stadia will be forgotten. There is no draw to the Stadia. No unique or third party games just for the Stadia... it's just.... an overpriced subscription service.
That all makes sense too. It's going to be made an example of to build off of. It's possible Google knows it won't be a huge success but they can learn and do what they do best.... gather data.... and use that data to improve things in the future. You know the other big companies are watching too.
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Stadia is off to a quiet start and lackluster reviews. But it's early. Give it time.... but why are they releasing this now if it isn't ready?
Google Stadia review: cloud gaming brought down to earth: Stadia lands far from its potential (https://www.polygon.com/reviews/2019/11/18/20967328/google-stadia-review-games-guide-destiny-2) - Polygon
Google Stadia: The input lag is horrendous. (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/the-post-tested-google-stadia-the-input-lag-is-horrendous/vi-BBWX3G2) - Washington Post
Google Stadia review: Gaming's streaming future isn't here yet... (https://www.cnet.com/reviews/google-stadia-review/) - CNET
Stadia Is An Unplayable Mess, Technical Disaster - Forbes (https://www.forbes.com/sites/paultassi/2019/11/19/google-stadia-works-better-at-a-hotel-than-at-my-house/#2bdbf25b1689).
Muted Launch for Google's Game-Streaming Service Stadia (https://www.nbcnewyork.com/entertainment/entertainment-news/Muted-Launch-for-Googles-Game-Streaming-Service-Stadia-565162732.html) - NBC
Google Stadia review: New game streaming service leaves more questions than answers (https://www.geekwire.com/2019/google-stadia-review/) - GeekWire
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More reviews are coming in and it's quite negative. As a matter of fact, the consensus is that Google's launch of Stadia is a disaster so far with it not working, lagging, and unplayable.
But as with other games and services, we've had bad launched before. This is sort of new technology and they need to work over the hurdles. It may get better down the road. We'll keep watching.
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Did anyone get it I'd be interested to hear what you guys have to say about it i have playstation now and I really enjoy it
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No way. I wouldn't touch the Stadia with a ten foot pole. It's expensive, you have to pay monthly for old games, and it's insecure. I doubt most gamers bought it. I am curious if someone did buy it though.
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The reviews everywhere are horrible for Stadia. It seems to be the popular thing to pile up the negativity on this product.... and I understand why.
No plans to buy this. I never intended too.
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Currently Stadia is a burning bag of poo. I wonder if they can put out the fire.
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The only way this will work... is to dump a bunch of money into it and get little to no profit until they get their user base up and service stable. Will they be willing to take the L at the start to launch this new platform while competing against the well known consoles already out or coming soon. Xbox. PlayStation. Nintendo. The big three. PC. The master race. I don't really see them coming out on top for this one... it'll flop and remain a flop.
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More news!
Google Stadia users are reporting overheated Chromecast Ultras (https://www.androidauthority.com/google-stadia-overheating-chromecast-ultra-1056931/).
Google Rejects Stadia Gamers’ Complaints on Overheated Chromecast Ultras (https://www.ccn.com/google-rejects-stadia-complaints-chromecast-overheating/)
Yes, good practice! Reject your buyer base!
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They've gotta take what profit they can get from this pile of shit it's pretty apearent they rushed the shit out of this abomination
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They and all the others will learn from this... come back... improve.
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They rushed it out because Microsoft and Xbox are about to drop something similar. PS Now is a thing too... and my experience with Now is alright. Yes it has some input lag but it doesn't make it unplayable. Google Stadia looks and sounds unplayable. Pre-order codes not being sent. Abysmal customer service. Lag. Lies. High end desktops can struggle to run some titles in 4K HD at a stable 60 FPS. Now try to stream that experience a great distance and rely on the users high speed internet. PS5 is gonna drop next year. The new Xbox will be there too, I'm sure. So they rushed this out to beat those launches.
To the ads... I'll gladly take my box that doesn't overheat and have glaring issues over a controller and dongle that will overheat.
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Google Stadia's Numbers Continue To Fall (https://www.forbes.com/sites/paultassi/2020/01/17/google-stadia-needs-its-free-tier-immediately-as-its-numbers-continue-to-fall/#618b114c7da1)...
Google Stadia promises more than 120 games in 2020, including 10 exclusives (https://www.theverge.com/2020/1/16/21068913/google-stadia-120-games-2020-10-exclusives-4k-controller).
Google Stadia is being bundled with BT broadband packages in the UK (https://www.engadget.com/2020/01/17/google-stadia-bt-broadband-uk-deals/)...
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GeForce Now cuts off Google's Stadia in the game streaming race (https://mashable.com/article/geforce-now-launch/).
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GOOGLE STADIA'S DAYS NUMBERED?
Google shutters internal Stadia game studio
Source (https://komonews.com/news/entertainment/google-shutters-internal-stadia-game-studio)
Google is closing the internal studio tasked with developing games for its Stadia cloud-gaming service, a move that raises questions about the future of the Stadia service itself.
Google launched Stadia in November 2019 as a new type of video-game platform that operates without a console and that stores game-playing sessions in the cloud. It lets players jump across devices including phones, PCs and laptops.
But in a Monday blog post, Google said it will no longer invest in creating its own games for the service beyond any "near-term" planned titles. Jade Raymond, who had headed up Stadia Games and Entertainment, is leaving the company. Google didn't disclose the total number of job cuts, but said most of the staff in the game-development division will be moved to other roles.
It's not clear how Stadia itself is faring. The service offers a free tier and Stadia Pro subscriptions that cost $10 a month. Some games are free and some must be purchased separately. Google hasn't released user figures.
In the blog post, Phil Harrison, general manager of Google Stadia said instead of investing in original games — which can be pricey to create — Stadia will work with third-party publishers to help them bring their games directly to players on Stadia. Stadia users will continue to be able to play games on the service and Google will continue to bring new third-party titles to the platform.
NPD analyst Mat Piscatella said that because cloud-gaming technology is so new, significant shifts in strategy aren't surprising. But choosing not to offer its own exclusive games on the platform means one less way Google can compete against other more established rivals. Sony and Microsoft just introduced splashy new PlayStation and Xbox consoles in 2020 that offer exclusive games.
R.W. Baird analyst Colin Sebastian said the holiday success of the PlayStation 5 and Xbox Series S/X proved that demand for traditional consoles remains high, making it more difficult for Stadia to break into the market.
But he said Google's Stadia technology could still be a success in the long run.
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Long run, Stadia's idea of gaming via streaming will most likely succeed. I don't think the service idea will go away, and there is no need for them to have a game studio if they can just use other developer's games on their service.
Cheaper that way.
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It was a short run, but it's now over. Google Announce Stadia Is Shutting Down and will Refund Games & Hardware Purchases. All services will end January 23, 2023.
Article (https://www.msn.com/en-us/entertainment/gaming/google-is-shutting-down-stadia/ar-AA12p6Yq)
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Sort of didn't think they'd just give in and disappear. Wow.
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The complete story of Stadia told in a humorous tone.