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The Lounge => Television & Film Discussion => Topic started by: Blurr on 2016-02-13 13:05:53
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Okay. Star Wars. One of the biggest franchises known to man. Lets have a topic on it shall we?
What all do you know? What movie was your favorite? Did you grow up with it? Did you not really know about it? Did you hate Jar Jar as much as everyone else?
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Episode 7 comes out on DVD next tuesday. I'm quite surprised its already coming out. It only came out just this past december. Do movies always take that long to be released on DVD and I just haven't been paying attention? Or was this one just so damn popular no one could wait to get it released on home video as soon as possible?
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Empire is still my fav. the new movie felt like a cheap knockoff of Ep4 with less likeable characters TBH.
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Thats exactly what it was. IT was just a new hope redone. Hold on.....the Critic reviewed it actually and it gave me some good insight as to what it really was.
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I'm actually thinking of joining the saber guild
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Empire is still my fav. the new movie felt like a cheap knockoff of Ep4 with less likeable characters TBH.
Concur.
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I've not bothered to watch the newest one yet. Just can't get excited about it. Probably catch it sometime after it's released to video.
As for a favorite, I have to go for the original. I had no idea what to expect and could only guess at what it was going to be like. I even had a dream (that I still somehow vaguely remember!) about what I thought it was going to be. And then it finally came to theaters and totally blew me away. Nothing like what I imagined, and like nothing else I'd seen up to that point. The rest of the trilogy was good too, epic and spellbinding, but they couln't compete with the sheer impact of the first.
The prequels were...eh. Visually pretty. Lacking in pretty much every other way. Dumbed down, lame plot and dialog, wooden acting by kid Anakin. Jar-Jar didn't really bother me since he fit in pretty well with the rest of the "family friendly" format. The outrage against him amused me though.
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I need someone who is a pro on this subject.
I watched this video and now think the Empire is good and the Jedi are wrong. Is this video true?
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Can you post the link to that plz?
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Can you post the link to that plz?
You asking for a link to the video? If so this is it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHE8EhOW994&feature=emb_logo
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I need someone who is a pro on this subject.
I watched this video and now think the Empire is good and the Jedi are wrong. Is this video true?
This is a giant joke video, just read the description:
"The video is done in fun to show both how propaganda can be used to spin anything and that there are some plot holes in Star Wars.
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I am not implying that the empire, sith, or their associates are perfectly good and I am not saying the jedi, rebels, or their associates are purely evil. But each side sits squarely on a spectrum.
(...)"
That said, inside the Star Wars community we often joke about the Empire not being that bad... and if we want to be honest, they're not the worst thing in the Star Wars galaxy.
Don't get me wrong, the Empire is terrible, they're pro slavery, they successfully committed genocide of a couple of alien species (rip Geonosians), they're also racist against alien species... and yeah, Alderaan.
But compared to other factions... at least they actually brought order to the galaxy in some way?
The Republic was just a giant filthy puddle of corruption. The CIS was just Palpatine's puppet faction. The Rebel Alliance is just a group of fanatical terrorists. And then there are the Underworld criminal organizations...
I guess this means that living the Star Wars universe just sucks... :P
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Return of the Jedi has always been my favorite. I grew up with the original trilogy and for me, Star Wars means those three movies. I don't hate the prequels or Disney sequels and spinoffs, but I don't love them either.
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But compared to other factions... at least they actually brought order to the galaxy in some way?
The Republic was giant filthy puddle of corruption. The CIS was just Palpatine's puppet faction. The Rebel Alliance is just a group of fanatical terrorists. And then there are the Underworld criminal organizations...
I guess this means that living the Star Wars universe just sucks... :P
So based off what you said... The Empire might be the best thing for the galaxy at that moment in time. Uniting people and trying to allow order.
The Rebel Alliance has no grand plans other than kill.
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Well the rebels won and still couldn't take full control over everything... looking at the new trilogy. They beat the big bad but couldn't finish the job... XD We're right back where we started and it is up to the Mary Sue to save the day.
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If you just look at the original trilogy though, not any expanded universe stuff either before or from Disney, just the first 3 movies ever made, did it seem like the average citizen really have that much of a reason to hate being ruled by the Empire, though? I mean, so long as they weren't harboring fugitive droids, or living on Alderaan, or any other cities that were used as bait for any Sith lord's offspring? Maybe as long as you weren't trying to overthrow the Empire or were associated with people who were, you could still probably live a happy and prosperous life, maybe? When I think about it, the movies never really give much of a reason to believe otherwise.
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Okay. Star Wars. One of the biggest franchises known to man. Lets have a topic on it shall we?
What all do you know? What movie was your favorite? Did you grow up with it? Did you not really know about it? Did you hate Jar Jar as much as everyone else?
My favourite’s are A New Hope, The Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi. I don’t mind the newer movies that have come out. I don’t remember when I discovered Starwars. Yes I also don’t like Jar Jar. I never liked those first 3 movies they did with Jar Jar in them. I am looking forward to the last movie. :) I have also seen The Mandalorian I think it’s quite good for a 1/2 hour show. One of my favourite’s. The weekend is good again. 😊
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I like the original three movies but not the changes that George Lucas made to them. We don't need the Vader "noooo" in Return of the Jedi when Vader is deciding if he should side with Luke or Palpatine at the end while Luke is getting electrocuted. It just ruins the scene. And yeah, we don't need Jar Jar in Return of the Jedi either, or even his dialogue. And yeah, Han shot first, and it doesn't make him that bad of a person for doing so because he'd already been threatened and the edited shot just looks stupid. First 2 prequels suck, I kind of like the 3rd but it has problems. I like Episode 7, Episode 8, I'll say it's okay, I guess Rogue One was cool, never saw the Solo movie.
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I should watch them all again sometime, in order, to see if my feelings are any different. In order means when they were released mind you. I don't go by chronology.
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Wow, I turned this dead topic into a buzzing conversation piece!
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I can find joy watching the original trilogy and the prequel trilogy, the prequel isn't as good but it served a purpose. The new trilogy lacks a plan... the trilogy should have been planned from start to finish or at least a basic outline of all three movies... not this pass from director to director.
So in order from best to worst... the original trilogy, the prequel trilogy, the new trilogy or should I call it the Disney trilogy... the clone wars series was fantastic.
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I love the original trilogy. While the prequels are bad conventional movies I appreciate how they exponentially pushed forward the technologies of the movie industry.
But the sequels from Diseny... Dear goodness, they're just terrible. I like to define them as "giant corporate check lists". Every choice made in these movies was made to please the executives overlords.
They needed another Rebellion and another Empire because it's what Star Wars is the most known for even if it doesn't make any sense on a world-building perspective... so the movies will sell more. They pushed gender politics because it's the cool thing to do nowdays... so the movies will sell more. Han Solo needs to be a smuggler again despite his character growth in the OT because it's what he's the most known for... so the movies will sell more... and so on and so forth.
Rogue One is ok. Didn't cared for Solo so I didn't even watched it. The original Clone Wars from Genndy Tartakovsky is probably one of my favorite piece of western animation ever. The first seasons of Clone Wars are trash but starting from season 3 the series becomes amazing! Rebels is meh. And I'm loving the Mandalorian so far.
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The Empire isn't as bad as the Rebels. The Empire at least is trying to bring peace and has good trade and economics with it. It has some creepy leaders... but really, the Rebels are creepy too.
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Ok look. I've been hearing rumor after rumor about what this final installment of the third trilogy has in store for us. Some good, some bad. But I'm not going to make any judgements or opinions until AFTER I see it. That's something that pisses me off on so many levels. When someone judges something as good or bad on a trailer or promo image alone. This movie may be the greatest thing ever or a total piece of crap. I don't know. But I'm not going to say anything about it until I see it. Honestly I look forward to seeing it, mostly because I've been hooked on Star Wars since I was 3.
So When December 20th rolls around. I WILL be recording a short review of it. And....just a heads up for that but I will have spoilers in that review. XD
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Since this thread is active again... I'll leave this here:
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Since this thread is active again... I'll leave this here:
This is such an amazing piece. I remember someone shared it before somewhere on this forum and we discussed it. Dedication!
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Okay, I have to say this. The Empire good? You guys do know that the Empire was based on the Nazis.
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Okay, I have to say this. The Empire good? You guys do know that the Empire was based on the Nazis.
Founding creators have said that the Nazi's were not a basis for the Empire. Though in some commentary, George Lucas off hand called them "Nazis" whether he was joking or not. They have said that there was no direct basis for the Empire and it was meant to new and not be based on any one nation or group. It’s really more of a generic “Evil Empire”, a trope common to plenty of other stories both before and after Star Wars was first created. Which would make the Rebel Alliance a generic “plucky band of rebels”, another trope common in fiction.
That said, there are certainly elements of the Galactic Empire that are reminiscent of Nazi Germany.... but there are many elements that are reminiscent of many nations. That's going to happen because we are humans and we only have so much to base our realities on.
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"There’s nothing subtle about this historical allusion in “Star Wars.” After all, the elite assault forces fanatically devoted to the Galactic Empire share a common name with the paramilitary fighters who defended the Nazi Party—stormtroopers. The Imperial officers’ uniforms and even Darth Vader’s helmet resemble those worn by German Army members in World War II, and the gradual rise of Palpatine from chancellor to emperor mirrored Adolf Hitler’s similar political ascent from chancellor to dictator. The Empire wasn’t the only side in “Star Wars” that cribbed Nazi imagery, however. The final scene of the original 1977 “Star Wars” in which Princess Leia awards medals to Rebel heroes Luke Skywalker and Han Solo while soldiers stood at attention echoed the massive Nazi rallies in Nuremberg captured in Leni Riefenstahl’s 1935 propaganda film “Triumph of the Will.”" - Source (https://www.history.com/news/the-real-history-that-inspired-star-wars)
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Since this thread is active again... I'll leave this here:
This looks like a 90s anime surprised star wars never got some short of anime adaption definitely a missed opportunity
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Ok. I’ve seen it. And for ME to say this about a Star Wars movie, a franchise I have loved since I was three, it’s something....but yeah this movie blows.
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It's not looking good
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I've seen this guy's reactions and reviews before. He is funny and passionate. He hated Rise of Skywalker. :P
Warning: Lots of spoilers btw.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voq8q9bkwKs
For an alternate take on the movie, this guy really liked it. His explanations start at the 6 and a half minute mark. I haven't watched the whole thing, but he says he's not going to talk about anything outside of what's in the trailers.
I haven't seen the movie yet, and I don't know when I'm going to, so I won't have an opinion on it until I see it for myself.
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I want to see the movie. I'm a Starwars fan. I just hope I like it I have mixed feelings about the end of the Saga.
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SPOILERS.
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Those are some good cartoons. :D
I talked to a guy at work who saw Star Wars and he said it would've been a decent movie but that the ending is such bullshit that it ruins the whole thing. Still haven't seen it, myself.
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Well... that was a shallow movie... (THE RISE OF SKYWALKER)
Just saw it.
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