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Title: Would hated Reboots, Remakes, and Spin Offs be less hated?
Post by: DEEcat98 on 2021-07-05 07:20:58
Many modern age reboots, remakes, and spin offs have been hated such as people pointing them out for ruining childhoods due to them having huge changes and differences from the originals.

But here is one question I have.

Would any hated reboots, remakes, and spin offs be less hated by ignoring the originals or will they still be hated even when ignoring their original predecessors?
Title: Re: Would hated Reboots, Remakes, and Spin Offs be less hated?
Post by: Rainberry on 2021-07-05 19:11:55
It depends on the reboot, remake, and spin off.  Some are good. 

Most of the time it comes down to the original people upset the new version isn't as good or it ruins their perfect old version. 

At the same time, it is pretty noticeable how poor the quality is of many new reboots, remakes and spin offs.  It takes looking at something like the new Ghost Busters as an example, or Pony Life over Friendship Is Magic.  The quality, writing, cast, etc, is noticeably worse or given worse content to work with.  Not to mention the "dumbing down" of content.
Title: Re: Would hated Reboots, Remakes, and Spin Offs be less hated?
Post by: DEEcat98 on 2021-07-06 07:14:30
But how about viewing the reboot/remake/spin off as it’s own thing while ignoring the original? Would that change a person’s view on the hated reboot/remake/spin off or would it still be hated even when ignoring the original?
Title: Re: Would hated Reboots, Remakes, and Spin Offs be less hated?
Post by: MasterXtreme on 2021-07-06 18:57:03
But how about viewing the reboot/remake/spin off as it’s own thing while ignoring the original?

In most cases yes, many would be horrible even as their own thing.

You can't hide low standards.  Bad writing, bad acting, bad quality animation or content.  It's apparent.
Title: Re: Would hated Reboots, Remakes, and Spin Offs be less hated?
Post by: Silverwing on 2021-07-07 18:33:36
With no context, most would still be bad and forgettable. 
Title: Re: Would hated Reboots, Remakes, and Spin Offs be less hated?
Post by: DEEcat98 on 2021-07-12 22:38:08
Which reboots, remakes, and spin offs do you think would still be bad even when ignoring their original predecessors?
Title: Re: Would hated Reboots, Remakes, and Spin Offs be less hated?
Post by: Soda on 2021-07-12 23:32:39
Most of the new Looney Tunes ones. 

The new Thundercats.

The new Carmen San Diego.

The new Rugrats.

Pony Life.

The Spongebob spinoffs, Kamp Koral and the Patrick Star Show.

The Powerpuff Girls reboot.

That horrible Total Drama kids show.

That is just to name a few.
Title: Re: Would hated Reboots, Remakes, and Spin Offs be less hated?
Post by: DEEcat98 on 2021-07-16 02:21:38
Some have said that a few of the live action Disney remakes would still be bad even when ignoring the original animated versions.
Title: Re: Would hated Reboots, Remakes, and Spin Offs be less hated?
Post by: RainySunshine on 2021-07-16 14:51:15
Yes.  The new Disney "reboots" would be bad still without the priors.  Low effort re-writing and questionable CGI.  They are not good.  No Disney magic or spark in them.
Title: Re: Would hated Reboots, Remakes, and Spin Offs be less hated?
Post by: Wolfwood on 2021-07-16 15:15:31
Most of the new Looney Tunes ones. 

The new Thundercats.

The new Carmen San Diego.

The new Rugrats.

Pony Life.

The Spongebob spinoffs, Kamp Koral and the Patrick Star Show.

The Powerpuff Girls reboot.

That horrible Total Drama kids show.

That is just to name a few.

Yes, yes.  And so much more.  Even more if we look beyond cartoons. 

Speed Racer: The Next Generation.

Ben 10 the 2016 reboot.

Anything Ninja Turtles.

Sonic Underground, lol.

The Garfield Show.

Powerpuff Girls 2016 reboot.

A reboot of The Fairly OddParents is coming and we know it will be bad.  It's going to be live-action.

Rugrats (2021)
Title: Re: Would hated Reboots, Remakes, and Spin Offs be less hated?
Post by: DEEcat98 on 2021-07-16 18:00:12
Yes.  The new Disney "reboots" would be bad still without the priors.  Low effort re-writing and questionable CGI.  They are not good.  No Disney magic or spark in them.
and how about for Disney spin offs that were hated by fans of the original Disney predecessors?
(of course we still have Disney spin offs that are well or decently liked by the predecessors’ fans, I’m just talking about the ones that were lambasted on social media sites after or around when they debuted)
Title: Re: Would hated Reboots, Remakes, and Spin Offs be less hated?
Post by: Soda on 2021-07-16 19:06:27
A lot of the spin-offs are of lower quality.  It varies. Sometimes they water down the originals are take the basic premise of the original and make it so simplistic, it is left with no depth or vision to be it's own thing.
Title: Re: Would hated Reboots, Remakes, and Spin Offs be less hated?
Post by: DEEcat98 on 2021-07-19 11:02:23
One of the examples is the Stitch! Anime where Lilo and Stitch fans argue about it just because of Lilo being replaced. But what would the reactions be if people were to view the Stitch! Anime as it’s own thing while ignoring the previous Lilo and Stitch incarnations?
Title: Re: Would hated Reboots, Remakes, and Spin Offs be less hated?
Post by: Rainberry on 2021-07-19 18:03:22
I've never watched it, so I do not know.
Title: Re: Would hated Reboots, Remakes, and Spin Offs be less hated?
Post by: megacycle on 2021-07-21 18:22:21
Reboots and remakes rarely reach the same level of popularity, they don't have the same spark or charm as the original. Some do find traction with the fans but fail regardless, because it isn't hitting the right target audience or isn't selling enough merch. Reboots and remakes are fine if they respect the source material and expand upon it instead of changing it or ignoring it. Respecting the source material doesn't mean telling the exact same story, the new story could be set in the past or the future.
Title: Re: Would hated Reboots, Remakes, and Spin Offs be less hated?
Post by: Bumble on 2021-07-21 22:55:16
Most reboots just try to live up to their predecessor and therefore aren't really original anymore.  Just trying to recapture faded glory from the past.  They rarely amount to much or being as good.  So on their own, I would say no. They are not usually as good.
Title: Re: Would hated Reboots, Remakes, and Spin Offs be less hated?
Post by: DEEcat98 on 2021-07-22 07:22:27
Based on from what I mentioned before, some reboots and spin offs are being hated just because of new characters in place of previous characters. But when viewing the reboots and spin offs on their own while ignoring the previous characters that were departed in the reboot/spin off and/or (depending if the previous characters are still here) viewing the new characters as full on original selves. Would that make the reboot/spin off along with the new characters less hated or still hated?
Title: Re: Would hated Reboots, Remakes, and Spin Offs be less hated?
Post by: Soda on 2021-07-22 16:54:45
I have an example of a good reboot so far.  iCarly's 2021 reboot has been very enjoyable and good, despite new characters.  I swear that Jerry Trainor doesn't age. The man is 44 and still acts like a nutty young adult. ;D