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Title: Drawing
Post by: Umbreon on 2016-05-06 16:00:18
How can i learn to draw as i can only trace at the moment.
Title: Re: Drawing
Post by: Death Blossom on 2016-05-06 16:04:23
Well, tracing isn't really drawing...
Like most people will probably say. Just practice. Tracing won't get you far. Use references. Stare at an image as you try to draw it. That's what I do.

There's also probably tutorials online and stuff.
Title: Re: Drawing
Post by: Umbreon on 2016-05-06 16:06:50
I know tracing isnt drawning thats why im asking.
Title: Re: Drawing
Post by: Kyrl on 2016-05-06 16:31:04
Doodle a lot.  Doodle often.  Make the worst pieces of crap ever.  If only to get yourself comfortable making a ton of mistakes.  Once you get that out of the way, there are a lot of drawing tutorials on DA, Tumblr, etc.
What are you looking to draw? 
Title: Re: Drawing
Post by: Rainberry on 2016-05-06 16:38:03
Tracing I think can help though.  But to get your own style, don't trace if you can help it.  Maybe look at something you want to learn to draw and try free hand drawing it.  Better yet, imagine in your head what to draw. :)

We got so many talented artists here that will probably chime in to help too. 
Title: Re: Drawing
Post by: Miggs on 2016-05-06 17:51:31
To be honest, Rain, I gotta disagree with you. Tracing does not help at all, because instead of learning and knowing the reasons as to why something is drawn the way it is, it's more so that you're just doing it because it's there. There's no actual learning going on.

Looking at a reference and copying from it, however, is what works. Because from there you can see the mistakes like "Oh the head is too big" or "Looks like the ear's a little off".

Start off with doodles, and from there if ya wanna get real serious with drawing, I'd just look up tutorials on Youtube or where ever you feel comfortable learning from.

Also, this is kinda something I notice, but a lot of beginner artists really hate using guide lines. Use them! Guidelines are your best friend! Eventually you won't even need them for anything!
Title: Re: Drawing
Post by: RainySunshine on 2016-05-06 18:46:21
It is important to doodle on a piece of paper or notebook, Sparky. :)  Don't feel frustrated if something doesn't look like you want it too, just keep plugging away and having fun with it.  Sketching is a good thing too, because it isn't as precise or complete.  It can make your work look better oddly enough too!  It's fun!

If you want to contact me on anything, or have questions, I would be happy to help you. :) 
Title: Re: Drawing
Post by: Umbreon on 2016-05-07 11:47:16
Well thanks for the feedback and I know I do get frustrated but that's something I have to work on I practice more when I have free time.
Title: Re: Drawing
Post by: mysteryserpent on 2016-05-07 12:21:57
At any Walmart or main grocery store there should be a how to draw book of some kind. I suggest if you really want to learn to draw, look at those books and practice!!! Without practice looking is worthless. Also, YouTube. YouTube is great for having some tutorial videos that you can pause at any time to draw a line or two and then continue. You will be slow at first and sketchy but that is natural. Draw what you want to and honestly showing your art is a good way to improve, even if a drawing is not finished or does not look right. Friends will give honest feedback :)
Title: Re: Drawing
Post by: Umbreon on 2016-05-07 13:43:20
Well I do have 500 sheets of paper I can use to practice on so I will try it soon.
Title: Re: Drawing
Post by: Death Blossom on 2016-05-07 13:46:17
Also do like multiple doodles on one page, sometimes drawing small-ish helps, rather than trying to fill up the whole page, you know? It also saves paper ^^
Title: Re: Drawing
Post by: Miggs on 2016-05-07 15:35:48
^This. It's also a nice feeling looking out and seeing you did like....3 things a page.
Title: Re: Drawing
Post by: Umbreon on 2016-05-07 16:23:30
Thanks everyone for advice.
Title: Re: Drawing
Post by: Silverwing on 2016-05-10 12:29:30
Is there anything you have specific questions on, let me know. :)  I can try and help. 
Title: Re: Drawing
Post by: Umbreon on 2016-05-10 14:11:12
Is there anything you have specific questions on, let me know. :)  I can try and help.


Well what materials would I need to start.
Title: Re: Drawing
Post by: Death Blossom on 2016-05-10 14:12:18
Paper.
And pencil.
Title: Re: Drawing
Post by: Anyponedrawn on 2016-05-10 14:15:52
If you don't have any computer programs, I would definitely start with a pen/pencil, and some paper. :) 

Choose something you want to draw, and try drawing it without tracing. 
Title: Re: Drawing
Post by: Umbreon on 2016-05-10 15:39:08
Unfortunately I don't have any computer programs but I do have pencils and lots of paper so I will try tomorrow or tonight my time.
Title: Re: Drawing
Post by: Death Blossom on 2016-05-10 15:40:46
Yeah, do that.
There's also MSPaint. It sucks, but hey it's something.
Title: Re: Drawing
Post by: Rainberry on 2016-05-10 16:21:03
Start with paper. :D  Computer programs come later. 
Title: Re: Drawing
Post by: Death Blossom on 2016-05-10 16:22:24
Depends, some people are better drawing digitally because of features programs offer.
Title: Re: Drawing
Post by: Umbreon on 2016-05-11 14:31:30
Well thanks everyone very kind i shall try on Saturday when I'm not busy.
Title: Re: Drawing
Post by: Grapefoot on 2016-05-12 15:29:41
Don't draw on the walls. 
Title: Re: Drawing
Post by: Umbreon on 2016-05-12 15:30:26
I wont hehe :)
Title: Re: Drawing
Post by: Grapefoot on 2016-05-12 15:31:27
Very good.  I did not think I needed to bring that up, but you never know with people now days. ;) 
Title: Re: Drawing
Post by: FoxTail on 2016-05-14 10:00:27
Did you get to practice drawing at all? 
Title: Re: Drawing
Post by: Umbreon on 2016-05-14 12:44:21
Well yes and no I did try a few times and not gonna lie it sucked I went through a lot of paper in the end I just snapped the pen and pencil in half just got fed up.
Title: Re: Drawing
Post by: 1234 on 2016-05-14 12:46:42
...you snapped a pen in half? :o
Title: Re: Drawing
Post by: Silverwing on 2016-05-14 13:02:37
Don't give up.  That is what quitting wants you to do.  Beat it. 
Title: Re: Drawing
Post by: Miggs on 2016-05-14 13:04:29
Quitting never solves much. You're never gonna get good if you don't continue to try, even if you fail.
Title: Re: Drawing
Post by: Silverwing on 2016-05-14 13:06:11
I fail all the time.  We all do. 

Failing isn't always a bad thing.  It helps us grow and improve in all aspects of life.
Title: Re: Drawing
Post by: Death Blossom on 2016-05-14 13:18:36
Yeah, quitting is for quitters. You gotta remember to sketch lightly. Need dark hard lines, it makes it hard to erase and fix. And if you're worried about going through a lot of paper maybe use both sides. And like I said, make multiple sketches on one paper so you don't feel like you're wasting a lot of it.
Title: Re: Drawing
Post by: Umbreon on 2016-05-16 18:24:12
Didn't see all your comments till now, I will try again when I'm feeling better and yes numbers I did it happens when I'm frustrated at something I didn't mean to do it. I still have plenty of paper and now I have some computer apps i got today so I might try that as well at a later date when I'm ready.
Title: Re: Drawing
Post by: 1234 on 2016-05-16 18:26:28
All right, then. ^-^
Title: Re: Drawing
Post by: Death Blossom on 2016-05-16 22:46:31
Don't get frustrated, digital drawing can be difficult as well. Especially when it comes to getting used to the software and stuff. But good luck!
Title: Re: Drawing
Post by: Umbreon on 2016-05-17 03:55:35
I know that's why I'm doing that later for now paper drawing.
Title: Re: Drawing
Post by: RainySunshine on 2016-05-17 03:59:45
Let us know how it goes a second time. :)
Title: Re: Drawing
Post by: Umbreon on 2016-05-17 13:21:24
Sure i will might not post it the first few times until confident.
Title: Re: Drawing
Post by: Death Blossom on 2016-05-17 13:33:58
Yeah yeah, we're not pushing you. Just let us know how your doing ya know?
Don't feel forced to post.
Title: Re: Drawing
Post by: Umbreon on 2016-05-17 19:30:41
I let you know how it progresses :) .
Title: Re: Drawing
Post by: HulkbowSMASH on 2016-05-17 21:48:29
There's that old saw about how you have (pick a large number) of crappy drawings to get out before you start drawing well.  It's not wholly accurate in its implication that it's all smooth sailing once you've done a certain number of lousy drawings, you just start gradually getting a better ratio of good to bad.  Even Judy Larson has admitted that she's had to scrape canvases and start over, and she'd been painting professionally for years!

Pencil and paper is probably the best way to start.  Or pen and paper, so you don't get caught up wasting time on erasing mistakes.  Draw from life before trying to draw from imagination.  Start with simple objects, like cups and boxes.  Things you can sit in front of and look at as you draw.

And yeah, psychologically we learn from failures.  Not so much from successes.  And have some links:

http://drawabox.com/
http://www.proko.com/library/
http://www.ctrlpaint.com/library/
http://artwiki.wikidot.com/
http://www.squidoo.com/how-to-draw-learn
http://www.drawing-tutorials-online.com/

Disclaimer:  I used to draw.  I suck at it now.
Title: Re: Drawing
Post by: mysteryserpent on 2016-05-17 22:05:16
My two cents: post a sketch dump of a lot of things on one paper. A friend of mine on DA has sketches that vary in quality, but he posts about 10 or 20 small sketches on one or two lined paper from the cheap notebooks that Walmart sells for 25 cents during back-to-school month in the fall.

Relax and keep trying. :)
Title: Re: Drawing
Post by: Umbreon on 2016-05-18 06:34:41
I can easily draw 3D shapes but only because I learned that from engineering but that's not drawing art but I gonna start shortly.
Title: Re: Drawing
Post by: RainySunshine on 2016-05-18 08:57:19
Hey, thats is a good start.  A lot of people can not draw three dimensionally, and you already got that in your pocket!  Keep going. 
Title: Re: Drawing
Post by: Wolfwood on 2016-08-30 22:46:54
So how has progress been? 
Title: Re: Drawing
Post by: Soda on 2016-08-30 22:47:46
Yeah, have you tried at all sense, Sparky? :) 
Title: Re: Drawing
Post by: MasterXtreme on 2016-09-03 23:27:23
Yeah, have you done anything? :)  Anything new?