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The Lounge => Television & Film Discussion => Topic started by: DEEcat98 on 2023-02-19 18:08:06

Title: Writers should listen to fans
Post by: DEEcat98 on 2023-02-19 18:08:06
Anyone agree that writers should listen to fans such as how they should receive our feedbacks on wanting things in a show to be fixed and to resolve a character's story or showing the answers behind anything lore or backstory related?
Title: Re: Writers should listen to fans
Post by: MasterXtreme on 2023-02-19 20:06:28
Nope.

Writers should write their content how they intended to write it.  Fans usually don't know their own good. Fans are a mess and have varying perspectives.  Impossible to 'follow' what the fans want.

Having occasional nods to the fans is fine, but listening purely to what fans want will give you an awful show.
Title: Re: Writers should listen to fans
Post by: Graymist on 2023-02-19 20:08:18
Yes and no.  Fans all have different ideas.  Which do you cherry pick?  Who's to say the writers don't think anything needs to be fixed? 

I can't fully agree with your statement.
Title: Re: Writers should listen to fans
Post by: Rainberry on 2023-02-19 20:36:50
They can listen in certain instances, but overall, fans aren't the professionals.  We don't know what the main idea is of the writers.  If they listen to us after the fact, it leads to lazy, meandering writing.  They can't listen to us before because there would probably be no fan-base for something that doesn't exist yet. ;D 

A a fan considers as something that may need to be fixed, doesn't necessarily line up with what the writers or network think.  So overall, I don't think this is a good idea.  I think it is okay for writers to have fan nods or moments made for the fans, but they shouldn't base their show to be purely for the fans.  It also narrows the scope for new fans.  Being highly particular will push many out who aren't as big of a fan, or are casuals.
Title: Re: Writers should listen to fans
Post by: electricferret on 2023-02-28 13:00:41
Strong no. For the same reason an artist shouldn't listen to me when I tell him how to draw. Assuming they are half way competent then they know more about story than the fans.
Title: Why can't Writers just care about Character Development?
Post by: DEEcat98 on 2023-03-04 13:53:05
On something related to this, why are there writers who don't even care about giving certain characters character development including not giving side characters larger roles or any story behind them?
Title: Re: Writers should listen to fans
Post by: Soda on 2023-03-04 14:23:34
Because not everything requires depth.  Not all writers have the requirement to do that.  A lot of shows also have a rotating cast of "pay writers" who aren't even with the show full time.  They just make scripts and get paid to do so, even if they have no relation to the show they are writing for.

Title: Re: Writers should listen to fans
Post by: HyperMetalSonic on 2023-03-04 14:49:13
^
And partially adding to Soda's comment about depth, not all characters are created equal.
Some characters are created purely as fodder, or as a one arc/story important character that then fade into obscurity.

While some people might want to know every little facet and detail of a character, some characters are just... created to die. It's why there's main characters, side characters and then the background cast
Title: Re: Writers should listen to fans
Post by: DEEcat98 on 2023-03-17 11:03:19
Because not everything requires depth.  Not all writers have the requirement to do that.  A lot of shows also have a rotating cast of "pay writers" who aren't even with the show full time.  They just make scripts and get paid to do so, even if they have no relation to the show they are writing for.

Well, didn't MLP later focused on depth?
Title: Re: Writers should listen to fans
Post by: Sniffles on 2023-03-17 19:15:44
Not every show is the same.  Not every show is MLP.
Title: Re: Writers should listen to fans
Post by: Anyponedrawn on 2023-03-17 19:37:14
Because not everything requires depth.  Not all writers have the requirement to do that.  A lot of shows also have a rotating cast of "pay writers" who aren't even with the show full time.  They just make scripts and get paid to do so, even if they have no relation to the show they are writing for.

Well, didn't MLP later focused on depth?

Yes and no.  The show always had a lot of lore and depth, but as the show grew and expanded, they were able to expand upon it more.  The series intent was to always have depth.  It was it's success that allowed them to expand on the depth more over the years. 

Title: Re: Writers should listen to fans
Post by: DEEcat98 on 2023-03-19 19:52:04
Not every show is the same.  Not every show is MLP.

One show I know didn't became like MLP was Harvey Girls Forever! (formally called Harvey Street Kids during it's first Season from 2018), instead it stayed as a fun goofy show along with most of the characters not getting character development, despite that some of the earlier episodes of the show were hinting character development on some of the characters.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FdmsavVUAAAyLWr?format=jpg&name=medium)

Hopefully Mitchells vs. The Machines will become depth driven if it gets more content such as if it were to get a show follow up in the vein of how Tangled and Big Hero 6 got follow up shows, and it should later focus more on it's depth such as getting a chance to know more about the characters.