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Creative => Artwork => Topic started by: timmelon on 2023-05-02 11:39:35

Title: Butterflies Tickle (Fluttershy, F)
Post by: timmelon on 2023-05-02 11:39:35
Didn’t look at @✨proponypal✨’s DA page for a while, and she has several fresh artworks!
(https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/0b2f5545-14a4-4388-bd9e-9c42c408acb4/dfuuvfn-73c56806-c571-4493-a1dd-8ff46c5068f1.png/v1/fill/w_1024,h_1479/fluttershy___butterflies_tickle_by_proponypal_dfuuvfn-fullview.png?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOjdlMGQxODg5ODIyNjQzNzNhNWYwZDQxNWVhMGQyNmUwIiwiaXNzIjoidXJuOmFwcDo3ZTBkMTg4OTgyMjY0MzczYTVmMGQ0MTVlYTBkMjZlMCIsIm9iaiI6W1t7ImhlaWdodCI6Ijw9MTQ3OSIsInBhdGgiOiJcL2ZcLzBiMmY1NTQ1LTE0YTQtNDM4OC1iZDllLTljNDJjNDA4YWNiNFwvZGZ1dXZmbi03M2M1NjgwNi1jNTcxLTQ0OTMtYTFkZC04ZmY0NmM1MDY4ZjEucG5nIiwid2lkdGgiOiI8PTEwMjQifV1dLCJhdWQiOlsidXJuOnNlcnZpY2U6aW1hZ2Uub3BlcmF0aW9ucyJdfQ.ehDywpthD1_BGxzvcUJvoc7Vaa5kRSYTFVqA4vOWyG8) (https://www.deviantart.com/proponypal/art/Fluttershy-butterflies-tickle-958821539)
Fresh, like Fluttershy’s nose after the cleaning procedure initiated by the butterfly. I think this way to find a key to pony’s nose very fits Fluttershy, and the tickle is good enough to overcome her shyness ;D.
(even the little jump is present ^-^)
Title: Re: Butterflies Tickle (F, Fluttershy)
Post by: Roul on 2023-05-02 13:08:24
That is one powerful butterfly to get Fluttershy to mini-explode like that  :)) .  I love her reaction, her dialogue, her build up, her mane moving when she sneezes, and the fact that the force of her sneeze causes her wings to extend fully.  This interaction is pretty cute [excited]
Title: Re: Butterflies Tickle (F, Fluttershy)
Post by: FoxTail on 2023-05-02 15:42:20
This one is fantastic!  I really like this one and a surprisingly strong sneeze from Flutter's!  Super cute!
Title: Re: Butterflies Tickle (F, Fluttershy)
Post by: Bumble on 2023-05-02 15:48:01
Don't praise this work. It fact it's quite the opposite. Theft from this artist Catbutt who drew these exact poses on PSF 10 years ago.  I expected better from P3.

Link (https://www.derpibooru.org/images/298499?q=sneezing)
Title: Re: Butterflies Tickle (F, Fluttershy)
Post by: Wolfwood on 2023-05-02 15:51:55
Don't praise this work. It fact it's quite the opposite. Theft from this artist Catbutt who drew these exact poses on PSF 10 years ago.  I expected better from P3.

Link (https://www.derpibooru.org/images/298499?q=sneezing)

Well, that is damning.  She gave no credit on the DA posts either, so she is passing it off as her own. 


Even still, if she had said they were someone else's work, she did a nice job re-lining them and coloring them.  I like the additional spray.
Title: Re: Butterflies Tickle (F, Fluttershy)
Post by: Grapefoot on 2023-05-02 15:54:50
I knew I had seen this somewhere before. Catbutt did these back on PSF 1.0.
Title: Re: Butterflies Tickle (F, Fluttershy)
Post by: mysteryserpent on 2023-05-02 19:32:39
Don't praise this work. It fact it's quite the opposite. Theft from this artist Catbutt who drew these exact poses on PSF 10 years ago.  I expected better from P3.

Link (https://www.derpibooru.org/images/298499?q=sneezing)

It's hard when P3 isn't on the forum now to say anything directly. I've talked with Catbutt about 3-4 years ago...I do not know where Catbutt is now. I think of both P3 and Catbutt as friends. =)

P3 I've talked with way more recently, like last month recent. P3 I have no idea what her intentions were while drawing this and Pinkie. There is no denying at all that the poses are the same XD but there's a BIG difference of possible different intentions of why she drew this. Art theft is a big deal, I think some people in the past did art theft to P3 X_X it could easily be a case of wanting to go back and have nostalgia to do something with old art but not thinking or forgetting to type in the name where she got the idea from.
Title: Re: Butterflies Tickle (F, Fluttershy)
Post by: 1234 on 2023-05-02 20:47:54
I knew I had seen this somewhere before. Catbutt did these back on PSF 1.0.
Even before that. I think those were done in like, 2011? 2012? Before PSF was even a thing, at any rate.
Title: Re: Butterflies Tickle (F, Fluttershy)
Post by: timmelon on 2023-05-02 22:52:59
Anyway, the mention of Catbutt is already in the description of the picture ;D.

Also, I think I like this comment on DB:
(https://i.ibb.co/1Qd0KKC/comment.jpg)
Honestly... there really are some well-drawn sneezes in artwork or animation, when I think it may be cool to made it by myself if I were those characters ;D. Alice from 1982 cartoon (https://i.ibb.co/PtMp1Bg/Alicechoo.gif), the horse from my avatar (what a beautiful hair flip he does!) and jumpy MLP sneezes are definitely in this category.
Title: Re: Butterflies Tickle (F, Fluttershy)
Post by: 1234 on 2023-05-03 02:27:17
Anyway, the mention of Catbutt is already in the description of the picture ;D.

Indeed, here it is:
"this is a remake of art from an artist called “catbutt”but with my own twist. I don’t take 100 percent of credit of this art."

Although I'm pretty sure that part wasn't there when I first looked at it. Well, either way, it's the outcome that counts, I guess.
Title: Re: Butterflies Tickle (F, Fluttershy)
Post by: Grapefoot on 2023-05-03 17:34:11
I knew I had seen this somewhere before. Catbutt did these back on PSF 1.0.
Even before that. I think those were done in like, 2011? 2012? Before PSF was even a thing, at any rate.

No, they were PSF related from the mlpchan days.  PSF the forum didn't exist, but the PSF community did.
Title: Re: Butterflies Tickle (F, Fluttershy)
Post by: Grapefoot on 2023-05-03 17:35:15
Anyway, the mention of Catbutt is already in the description of the picture ;D.

Also, I think I like this comment on DB:
(https://i.ibb.co/1Qd0KKC/comment.jpg)
Honestly... there really are some well-drawn sneezes in artwork or animation, when I think it may be cool to made it by myself if I were those characters ;D. Alice from 1982 cartoon (https://i.ibb.co/PtMp1Bg/Alicechoo.gif), the horse from my avatar (what a beautiful hair flip he does!) and jumpy MLP sneezes are definitely in this category.

That was not there originally. She added that after people started talking here.  I have photos of the original post she made.  Catbutt was in none of the photos and never mentioned.
Title: Re: Butterflies Tickle (F, Fluttershy)
Post by: Bumble on 2023-05-03 17:46:20
Indeed, here it is:
"this is a remake of art from an artist called “catbutt”but with my own twist. I don’t take 100 percent of credit of this art."

Although I'm pretty sure that part wasn't there when I first looked at it. Well, either way, it's the outcome that counts, I guess.

That is because it wasn't there until she edited it yesterday after I posted the revelation. She had no problem with the old description never including Catbutt's name or that she stole it as the image sat there since April 18th.  She only changed the description when she got caught yesterday on May 2nd.  I don't think I need to further embarrass her, but I have a screen capture of her original description I can post.  But I don't think I need to rub it in.  I don't want to fully shame her because I know she can make great content and I don't want this to ruin her content.
Title: Re: Butterflies Tickle (F, Fluttershy)
Post by: Grapefoot on 2023-05-03 17:51:24
^ Exactly.  No need to post it. I think she knows what she did was wrong. We don't need to drill it into the earth. 
Title: Re: Butterflies Tickle (F, Fluttershy)
Post by: Rainberry on 2023-05-03 17:54:15
I do really like these, quite a lot actually.  But now seeing the full story, I'm kinda upset about the circumstances. :-\  She'll kind of need to rebuild some of the trust that was lost from this. If she was honest from the beginning and said these were tracings of the originals by Catbutt and colored, instead of trying to pretend this is some sort of "homage" or "re-interpretation" of their work, that might be better.  She did completely change the descriptions.  I saw that yesterday when I looked to today. 

Title: Re: Butterflies Tickle (F, Fluttershy)
Post by: Bumble on 2023-05-03 17:56:30
I think she could simply post a statement here or on DA and acknowledge what she did was wrong.  It would certainly help save face instead of being silent and never talking to anyone.  But she can do what she wants.

I agree, we can move past this and she can to.  She can help herself a lot by simply posting and acknowledging what she did was wrong, maybe explain why she did it, or not.  Whatever.  If she says nothing about it, just remember what was done in the past and always question why it was done.
Title: Re: Butterflies Tickle (F, Fluttershy)
Post by: Anyponedrawn on 2023-05-03 17:58:03
I could tell right away these were drawings originally done by Catbutt. :D  I used to talk to them a lot on the old PSF mlpchan days. :)  These turned out great!  Like...really really nice! 
Title: Re: Butterflies Tickle (F, Fluttershy)
Post by: Silverwing on 2023-05-03 19:05:48
I'm happy to see how well these turned out.  Catbutt classics redrawn and colored.  I've always really enjoyed how they had Fluttershy bounce when she sneezes.  Nice!
Title: Re: Butterflies Tickle (F, Fluttershy)
Post by: Darrin on 2023-05-03 20:23:07
Flutter's sneeze jump is great!  I really like it. Pesky butterflies.  CB had fun drawing these. :)  Hope they are doing well.
Title: Re: Butterflies Tickle (F, Fluttershy)
Post by: Roul on 2023-05-04 17:08:59
Aww that's a shame that there was theft involved.  Tho, I do remember Catbutt's work and am glad that their work is still memorable this many years later lmao.
Title: Re: Butterflies Tickle (F, Fluttershy)
Post by: Graymist on 2023-05-07 21:16:15
Upsetting this was stolen. :(  They only tried to make it right when they were caught, and even then, they haven't said anything about it.  Lost a fan here from someone who has enjoyed their content for years.  Now it makes me wonder how many other things they simply lifted and stole from other artists?

It's one thing to use screen caps as a basis, we all kinda expected that, but when stealing actual artists work, that isn't kosher.