PSF
News:
 
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
PSF  >  The Lounge  >  Gaming Board  >  Topic: Trucking Simulator Games Discussion 0 Members and 64 Guests are viewing this topic. « previous next »
Pages: 1 ... 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 [34] 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 ... 483 Go Down Print
Author Topic: Trucking Simulator Games Discussion  (Read 1664021 times)
MasterXtreme
Legendary Member
*******
Offline Offline

Posts: 146483


PSF Member


Email
« Reply #495 on: 2020-11-15 14:00:43 »

As much as I love talking with my fellow truckers, I got an event to accomplish.  I've only done 6 of 13 so far!
« Last Edit: 2020-11-15 14:00:51 by MasterXtreme » Logged
RainySunshine
SCM Member
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 126193


There is a 100% chance of Sunshine ahead for You.


WWW Email
« Reply #496 on: 2020-11-15 14:01:02 »

Hahahaha!  I've done 1!
Logged
timmelon
SCM Member
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 5736



Email
« Reply #497 on: 2020-11-15 14:03:00 »

Never attended at WoT events... :nervoussmile:
Logged
MasterXtreme
Legendary Member
*******
Offline Offline

Posts: 146483


PSF Member


Email
« Reply #498 on: 2020-11-15 14:03:35 »

Better get driving.  I think I left off in Montrose hoping to get a quick ride to Durango and get my 7/13.  The from there I got most of the state I can still go to.
Logged
MasterXtreme
Legendary Member
*******
Offline Offline

Posts: 146483


PSF Member


Email
« Reply #499 on: 2020-11-15 14:04:30 »

Never attended at WoT events... :nervoussmile:

For shame!  Lol!  You get some neat things for completing them.  Mainly little things to throw on your truck, sometimes unique paint jobs.  If you care, you get special badges (I don't care about badges no one looks at). 
Logged
timmelon
SCM Member
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 5736



Email
« Reply #500 on: 2020-11-15 14:07:09 »

Don’t know why but I personally prefer to stay out online parts of gaming :-\.

Well, I even played Starcraft and Counter-Strike exclusively on LAN, so it’s normal for me. I even prefer to launch Steam in offline mode and connect to the network only if I am ready to unexpected update (= don’t have an unfinished delivery).

P.S. Wow, 500 posts in 10,5 months! That was quick!
« Last Edit: 2020-11-15 14:15:52 by timmelon » Logged
MasterXtreme
Legendary Member
*******
Offline Offline

Posts: 146483


PSF Member


Email
« Reply #501 on: 2020-11-15 14:16:12 »

Well, I even played Starcraft and Counter-Strike exclusively on LAN, so it’s normal for me. I even prefer to launch Steam in offline mode and connect to the network only if I am ready to unexpected update (= don’t have an unfinished delivery).

Like you, I prefer offline gaming.  I guess what makes the SCS games different for me online is that I don't actually see any other people online.  It's just to earn some 'free' paint jobs and other little prizes.  But any other game, I play offline as well.  I keep Steam offline when I plan to play anything else.  :) 
Logged
Silverwing
SCM Member
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 146636


PSF Member


WWW Email
« Reply #502 on: 2020-11-15 14:29:13 »

It has begun.  Are you ready?

The most anticipated truck in ATS history is coming, and it's coming soon.


Good year for ATS.  Many DLCs and many new trucks.

Super unexpected!  I thought we had seen everything for ATS this year! WOW!  What a surprise, a good surprise! :D What a stand out year for ATS.  No joke!  It was superb!
Logged
Tüsszent
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Posts: 650


PSF Member


Email
« Reply #503 on: 2020-11-15 22:45:49 »

I have a question for all you Yankees playing the games.

How do you think of European countries when seeing them through ETS2?  Do you see it as advanced?  Backwards?  What do you think?  Do you think the infrastructure is as good or better than in your home country?  What about the trucks themselves?

Just curious what Americans have to say about the beloved Old Continent.
Logged
MasterXtreme
Legendary Member
*******
Offline Offline

Posts: 146483


PSF Member


Email
« Reply #504 on: 2020-11-16 00:14:12 »

Theory time.  So after Montana and Texas are done... many states will be flat, empty prairies.  Tall grass and farmland.  So it should be easier (faster?) for them to make states.  But then we go into the question of when they might start bundling states together as one DLC.  For sure, one would think the smaller eastern states might get some bundling.  But what about empty, flat, possibly "boring" states?  I think of places like Iowa, Kansas, Oklahoma, etc.  Could we see those states bundles in some way?

Share thoughts below.
Logged
MasterXtreme
Legendary Member
*******
Offline Offline

Posts: 146483


PSF Member


Email
« Reply #505 on: 2020-11-16 00:21:44 »

I have a question for all you Yankees playing the games.

How do you think of European countries when seeing them through ETS2?  Do you see it as advanced?  Backwards?  What do you think?  Do you think the infrastructure is as good or better than in your home country?  What about the trucks themselves?

Just curious what Americans have to say about the beloved Old Continent.

First of all, I can't really base Europe on a video game. ;)  But if I did, I would throw out all the old original ETS 2 stuff, and that sadly leaves out much of Europe's western countries.  Can't use the UK, or most of Germany, Benelux, etc. But from newer parts that are out there, it varies.  SCS puts Euro countries in their best light usually, which is a nice thing to do. I love some of the scenery, am fascinated by some of the rest stop areas (not sure if they are true to life or just assets from early SCS) and disappointed by the lack of going into smaller towns that can be seen in the distance.  Some of the routes are incredible, from high passes and tunnels.  I think of Norway especially and wish we had more of Norway to drive through.  Because of the smaller size of the countries, I feel SCS really lacks letting us go into earlier cities, and I hated how they used to have roads go into a very small cluster of the same buildings over and over, huge sidewalks, nothing like a real European city in most cases. 

Some of the roads are really small, such as on-off ramps.  I think of the U-shaped on-ramps with the metal side railings making it really tight to turn on to sometimes.

I am not sure the answer you were expecting, because I can't base or tell you what I think of every European country based on the game.  Even within countries, regions vary and some are better than others. 

If I did base it off the game, the UK is very boring, hilly, and has lots of the same buildings and dreaded sunflowers!  Lol! 

When do we start taking ETS2 DLC's more seriously?  Was it with Going East when they started getting more detailed?  Even with that DLC, I got tired of seeing the same towns in the distance and the silly wildlife overpass about eight times on a stretch of road.  It also bugged me so much when a big city could clearly be seen, but the main road you were on had no roads connecting to it (even if the roads weren't accessible by the player) to add some realism.  I guess those city's are cut off from the world.  Another thing that bugs me is seeing towns or buildings with no roads connecting to them. 


Now since I have been all over Europe and met many people, I love the Old Continent.  I love that they are our allies (for the most part) and I think each nation has a rich culture and unique fabric that makes them all lovely and unique.  It's amazing how much is crammed in such tight spaces.  Imagine an EU as one big country with all those cultures.  Crazy!    Great people, rich history, deep culture, lovely locations. 
« Last Edit: 2020-11-16 00:23:26 by MasterXtreme » Logged
flemishcap
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Posts: 1401


PSF Member


Email
« Reply #506 on: 2020-11-16 12:16:08 »

I am loving the new Colorado DLC and I think Denver is my new favorite big city in terms of being able to drive around it.  Aspects of it remind me of Portland and Seattle.  I love the new urban/suburban details I wish they could add to previous DLCs.  They have really nailed the American layout of businesses, strip malls, and how things look.  More manicured sidewalks and street art.  Also Colorado Spring looks terrific too! I also love the cheeky electric signs that were first introduced in Washington I think.  I like the variety and hope they go back and change some of the signs, or at least have them change sayings at different times.

My fav big city's are now...

Denver - Explained above.

Seattle - I wish there were more places to see instead of just the industrial area, and it's a shame so many city's are so compact in this area due to space.  I hate how coming from Everett south, you can still see skyscrapers from Seattle, or how from parts of south Seattle, you can see seaport cranes from Tacoma. They really need to remove that.  Visually though it is beautiful, lush, and so much variety.  Love the transportation signs and various things going on.  Love that set up of ramps around Seattle.  They need to fix the off-ramps in Everett.  Don't look anything like the real thing from Google maps.


Portland - Love how we can drive around the full city and see it all.  Love the bridges.  Dislike how the suburban area isn't represented well between Portland and the airport.  Should be filled with homes and buildings and instead all we get are trees.

This has been an excellent year for ATS:

DLC - Idaho
DLC - Colorado
DLC - Mack Anthem
DLC - Western Star x49
DLC - Freightliner Cascadia.


And soon we get a very exciting update for ETS2!  Iberia looks great!
« Last Edit: 2020-11-16 12:25:12 by FlemishCap » Logged
flemishcap
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Posts: 1401


PSF Member


Email
« Reply #507 on: 2020-11-16 12:21:39 »

I have a question for all you Yankees playing the games.

How do you think of European countries when seeing them through ETS2?  Do you see it as advanced?  Backwards?  What do you think?  Do you think the infrastructure is as good or better than in your home country?  What about the trucks themselves?

Just curious what Americans have to say about the beloved Old Continent.

Instead of viewing Eastern Europe as poorer and more run-down, the game instead gave me a new excitement for a part of Europe I rarely thought about.  It made me explore Google Maps and read Wikipedia on the country's and city's.  I learned about culture and their governments, how they live, etc. Watched Youtube videos.  It got me excited!  I love seeing them represented in the game and I think not having everything as modern and fancy as other places makes them unique and more fun to drive.  You don't always know what to expect and that makes each town and road more interesting to see.  Overall, I love Europe.  I love the people of various cultures.

One thing I found fascinating is driving into Kaliningrad.  I'm just thankful we don't have those restrictions in the North America.  But I loved being able to experience to some degree and get some visual representation of that area.  I love driving through the small Scandinanvian areas as well.  Italy and France, which I thought I would love the most, made me dislike their constant tolling.  It takes away from the drive to have to pay tolls all the time.  YUCK.  I was surprised the disparity between northern Italy and southern Italy.  Parts of southern Italy didn't look much better than some of the poorer regions of Europe.  Very industrial and dirty. So that surprised me.
Logged
timmelon
SCM Member
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 5736



Email
« Reply #508 on: 2020-11-16 13:39:57 »

Could we see those states bundles in some way?
I think SCS eventually will not have a choice, or else the list of expansion packs will be almost as long as the list of ETS2’s paintjob DLC’s ;D.
I would love to see names such as Road to Great Lakes or Meet the Mimal ;D.

What about the trucks themselves?
Well, I am not an American, but can I answer? :nervoussmile:
The first really striking difference between ETS and ATS trucks is the price for accessories! :-0 It’s funny to see how the most expensive engine for DAF 106 costs 22,2k Euros, and the most expensive set of sideskirts for it — 23,2k ;D. In ATS only the high-end engines are expensive; the cabs, interiors and accessories don’t have so wide price range. So, there is 1:0 in favor of ATS.
Next, since in ETS the set with biggest fuel tanks is the cheapest, in ATS — the most expensive, taking quick jobs with basic truck is easier in Europe — you don’t need to worry that your 150-gallon tank can dry out at 50 miles from the next truck stop (and you, of course, didn’t refuel on a previous station because there was a very curvy exit to it). And that 10-speed gearbox they like to give with basic ATS trucks also gives some butthurt on long climbs with a heavy load. 1:1
Differences in truck behaviour: for me, all of them have some good and bad sides: yes, the longer American chassis is more stable (at least, I can feel it), but my manual geek’s taste have found the bright side in European trucks: while the vehicles with roughly the same weight and power have a similar acceleration, the European engines are better on the start — a truck literally jumps forward when you release the clutch pedal, and American engine is easier to stall when you are starting on the climb. Difference in chassis length can be critical for the parking, but I think that skill have more weight in this case. 2:2
Gearboxes: despite that 10-speed basic one, the medal still comes to USA, their 13- and 18-speed EF’s have more gears in the range of 75-125 km/h. European 16-speed ZF could be equally good, but it is not available for Volvo and Scania and have too low diff gear ratio, especially in Mercedes. 3:2
Trailers: As long I love the ability to make the trailer’s wheels the same as on your truck in ATS, the heavy cargo trailers from ETS are much easier to handle (even if sometimes their smart axles are too smart :nervoussmile:) than their American counterparts, and, in addition, B-doubles are much more useful in ETS. But, the ATS’s map in its current shape have much larger percentage of long trailer-friendly areas, so both games take their points here. 4:3
Badass look: I think, no further explanation is needed here ;D. 5:3
Tuning options: ETS wins by a landslide, even if those accessories can be ridiculously expensive. 5:4
Diversity: well, if IRL is better (for a service man, not for a manufacturer ;D) when the same part is compatible with all trucks, in the game I more like when the vehicles are different not only in appearance. And here ETS takes the lead: not only it have bigger variety of models (with unique engines for all manufacturers!), but every truck can also have different number of axles — the option you can’t get in ATS without using mods. 5:5
So, it’s a tie :). The choice is really tough, and both sides have their pros and cons, although some new features like emergency refueling can lower the importance of visiting the truck stops at the right time, and increasing number of ATS’s trucks makes the traffic more diverse. Also, when someone likes badass trucks, another people can love cute ones, and European game have a plenty of them.
« Last Edit: 2020-11-21 02:51:21 by timmelon » Logged
Anyponedrawn
Legendary Member
*******
Offline Offline

Posts: 148807


PSF Member


Email
« Reply #509 on: 2020-11-16 16:26:56 »

All of a sudden there is a ton to talk about, lol!

Theory time.  So after Montana and Texas are done... many states will be flat, empty prairies.  Tall grass and farmland.  So it should be easier (faster?) for them to make states.  But then we go into the question of when they might start bundling states together as one DLC.  For sure, one would think the smaller eastern states might get some bundling.  But what about empty, flat, possibly "boring" states?  I think of places like Iowa, Kansas, Oklahoma, etc.  Could we see those states bundles in some way?

Share thoughts below.

I think bundles will have to be done, especially in small northeastern states.  I am curious if Texas will be split in two or cost extra?  It will be weird when a state in ATS will be so tiny it will be like in ETS when a whole country might just have one city appear.  I think that will be an unfortunate negative to ATS.  Take for example Delware or Rhode Island.  The scaling it too small to have much more than highways and one or two key cities. 

I am loving the new Colorado DLC and I think Denver is my new favorite big city in terms of being able to drive around it.  Aspects of it remind me of Portland and Seattle.  I love the new urban/suburban details I wish they could add to previous DLCs.  They have really nailed the American layout of businesses, strip malls, and how things look.  More manicured sidewalks and street art.  Also Colorado Spring looks terrific too! I also love the cheeky electric signs that were first introduced in Washington I think.  I like the variety and hope they go back and change some of the signs, or at least have them change sayings at different times.

My fav big city's are now...

Denver - Explained above.

Seattle - I wish there were more places to see instead of just the industrial area, and it's a shame so many city's are so compact in this area due to space.  I hate how coming from Everett south, you can still see skyscrapers from Seattle, or how from parts of south Seattle, you can see seaport cranes from Tacoma. They really need to remove that.  Visually though it is beautiful, lush, and so much variety.  Love the transportation signs and various things going on.  Love that set up of ramps around Seattle.  They need to fix the off-ramps in Everett.  Don't look anything like the real thing from Google maps.


Portland - Love how we can drive around the full city and see it all.  Love the bridges.  Dislike how the suburban area isn't represented well between Portland and the airport.  Should be filled with homes and buildings and instead all we get are trees.

This has been an excellent year for ATS:

DLC - Idaho
DLC - Colorado
DLC - Mack Anthem
DLC - Western Star x49
DLC - Freightliner Cascadia.


And soon we get a very exciting update for ETS2!  Iberia looks great!

I love your review of Colorado!  Thanks for sharing that!  I haven't been to Denver or Colorado Springs yet.  I am still in the western part of the state but you have me excited to visit them!

I have a question for all you Yankees playing the games.

How do you think of European countries when seeing them through ETS2?  Do you see it as advanced?  Backwards?  What do you think?  Do you think the infrastructure is as good or better than in your home country?  What about the trucks themselves?

Just curious what Americans have to say about the beloved Old Continent.

I love ETS2.  I love exploring the country's, especially in the more detailed later updates.  It's impossible to base something on the old maps.

As for the trucks, I love them both.  But to me the European trucks seem more refined and easier to turn.  They seem to be able to go faster (I have done speed tests, lol, especially the Volvo's!!) The Euro trucks seem to be more of a plush ride too, but their interior space is much more confined.  On that note, I love the brute strength the American trucks have and their large interiors!  It's so cool to think you can literally have a mini home in the back behind the drivers seat!  That seems so cool!  I would have a mini fridge, microwave, tv, laptop, etc! :D

As for the game maps, I like them for different reasons.  But overall, I would say ATS has been producing better maps and more interesting maps.  That is partially to do with ATS's team learning from ETS2 and coming out later.  So ATS's "oldest" parts don't look as dated as ETS2's.  I also love the idea of the big open freeway with an endless horizon in ATS.  In ETS2 you are always pretty close to some form of population. 
Logged
Pages: 1 ... 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 [34] 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 ... 483 Go Up Print 
PSF  >  The Lounge  >  Gaming Board  >  Topic: Trucking Simulator Games Discussion « previous next »
Jump to:  


Login with username, password and session length

SMF 2.0.19 | SMF © 2021, Simple Machines | PSF © 2014-2026