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The Lounge => General => Topic started by: Umeko on 2025-02-11 23:15:12
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Hey just wanted to share some thoughts about AI.
AI can be great, like writing, get plot ideas and such.
But when it comes to AI art, AI music, AI movies *yeah those exists too* it has a bad taste in mine and the artist community's mouths.
Just wanted to shed some light on it and explain why so I'll copy paste from a journal I have on Deviantart, its only to have people see why most artists aren't happy with it
-Picture this if you will-
You walk into the Louvre in Paris.
Looking at all the masterpieces made by the big artists like Leonardo da vinci, Donatello, Monet etc.
Then you take out scissors and start cutting pieces from everything and put together to make a new image and say you made it.
1: You'd be arrested
2: You'd be charged with: Destruction of property, vandalism and theft
3: You'd be fined a huge amount of money and looking at a few years in jail.
4: Those art pieces are now ruined and can't be fixed cause 1 it took those artists YEARS to paint those 2: They're dead
That's what would happen if it happened in the offline world.
But in the digital world, its okay despite watermarks and signatures of it being copyrighted material.
And people brush it off like its fine when its not.
1: You steal pieces from peoples' hard work, cause that's what the AI generator does to make those images
2: Artists are losing business cause, why pay money when you can just generate what you're looking for
3: You don't respect the art
and when confronted about it from people, you just shrug.
I'll never let my art be in the system of AI, it takes a lot of time making these and a lot of thought of how to make them, lighting, shading, posing...
Just wanted to put my word out there, thank you for listening and please accept these cookies!
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I agree 110%. I don't think anyone here really disagrees. ;D
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I dislike how it learns and steals. I have no problem for people to use it as a tool to maybe help them learn perspective or to see their own creations in a different way / creativity ideas, but how it steals and seems so impersonal are what get to me.
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I agree 110%. I don't think anyone here really disagrees. ;D
Okay some use it for like pose references for art they're going to make, but posting an AI generated art piece and say you made it, is pretty much art theft.
And besides AI will never get it right, you can tell if its AI
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I dislike how it learns and steals. I have no problem for people to use it as a tool to maybe help them learn perspective or to see their own creations in a different way / creativity ideas, but how it steals and seems so impersonal are what get to me.
That's what it does, it takes pieces from copyrighted art, despite watermarks etc, so bad that artists has to put GIANT ugly watermarks on their art now.
Thankfully DA has a thing where you can make sure your art won't be in the system. But FA doesn't.
Doesn't help that Adobe promotes AI art, recently they told their artist users to "Embrace AI art or get left behind" like good job adobe, you just drove your users to your competition.
It gets worse if people make commissions of the ai art
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I dislike how it learns and steals. I have no problem for people to use it as a tool to maybe help them learn perspective or to see their own creations in a different way / creativity ideas, but how it steals and seems so impersonal are what get to me.
As you are also someone who is an artist, I agree with this take. It can be used as a learning tool or to help figure out a design element or perspective. But the artist's original work should not contain ai in it. They need to hand draw.
This seems like a similar conundrum to how early artist's often trace or simple change minor things to characters they already like.
Now we created an Ai Artwork area for people who don't draw and create ai content. As long as they are not stealing and make it themselves, that is fine. PSF realizes this is part of our future, whether we like it or not. :-\
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I dislike how it learns and steals. I have no problem for people to use it as a tool to maybe help them learn perspective or to see their own creations in a different way / creativity ideas, but how it steals and seems so impersonal are what get to me.
As you are also someone who is an artist, I agree with this take. It can be used as a learning tool or to help figure out a design element or perspective. But the artist's original work should not contain ai in it. They need to hand draw.
This seems like a similar conundrum to how early artist's often trace or simple change minor things to characters they already like.
Now we created an Ai Artwork area for people who don't draw and create ai content. As long as they are not stealing and make it themselves, that is fine. PSF realizes this is part of our future, whether we like it or not. :-\
Many of us start of as *tracers* you see a character you wanna draw it, but don't know how to, so you follow the lines of the original art.
Its a hidden secret of most, we've done it at least once or twice as a kid.
And the art that look like the real thing; Sonic copycats Lion King, those I'm a tad irked with cause people don't develop their own style.
But ai is another level cause its a generator, like those pokémon fusion things, its a generator and it steals from existing art work that's where the issue is. If it used a database made for ai art, like royalty free music on youtube, there is a place to get stuff made for it. There should be the same for ai art...
That plus artists are being brushed off about it. Many artists spend months on some art pieces and then the ai generator takes it or pieces of it. Again if it was a physical thing, people would throw hands. But because its digital its *eh*
That's why it stings
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Not a fan of ai that steals myself. No good.
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Not a fan of ai that steals myself. No good.
Its what ai art is, it ignores watermarks and copyright so now artists have to use big ugly watermarks.
its not just art but photos, music, nature videos, movies. It all takes from existing material.
So it makes it even harder for us artists to get clients cause why buy art when you can just *make* it